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Nothing Certain
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Posted - 2014.10.07 00:33:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The reality on the ADS, was that it was an incredible outlier statistically. It's still overpowered, depending how you measure it, it's just... less OP now than it was before. Plenty of ADS players have stated otherwise, but they're also heavily biased, and the reality is, they're just closer to the level of play others experience now. I know we aren't supposed to swear, but that statement is bullshit. Do you actually listen to the community? I've listened to non pilots that say that the ADS nerf was a bit too much. ADS could always be handled with decent AV. Always. I sometimes fly dropships and this nerf was kind of ridiculous. Now they are wanting to change the whole ADS meta by changing the Python and Incubus bonuses? Where do they get off on that?
I'd have to ask you "Do you even Forum"? The ADS could not be killed by AV in any practical manner. There was as close to a consensus on that as any issue ever raised. The data supported that consensus. The changes in AV and ADS don't seem to have greatly altered things from my perspective. If I didn't read the forums I wouldn't know anything changed. The QQ frim pilots on the other hand is impressive.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.10.07 00:37:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:Orphan Shadow wrote:Rami, you use proper spelling and grammar, and your actual concern is fair discussion, so you seem an intelligent dude. Your OP lacks tact or any evidence of your claims. DEVs don't need to go any further than the title of your post to safely decide to move onto something else. This thread is just one of hundreds, if not thousands, just like it. Yet you legitimately feel a DEV should respond to you. If you want a blue tag, write something with more substance, more content, and you know, do a little investigation first. Come up with a better title. You want effort from CCP, put a little into your post. And apologies to you from me, for coming off too strongly previously. +1 for not overreacting. Wow, some actual constructive comments. Thank you. Unfortunately I'm unable to cite my own personal experiences with the game, since I used my own experiences as examples. I'm pleased to see that the CPM that responded has provided some decent dialog, at least. Honestly, once Borderlands the Pre Sequel comes out and Shadow of Mordor comes to PS3, I won't be playing this game anymore. I just made this thread to hopefully start some sort of meaningful questioning inthe community for how CCP takes care of buffing/nerfing. It really seems like they just look at raw numbers and then fix the firestorm of their tweaking later. Some of the things they change in response to a patch are things that could have been easily caught and fixed in internal testing. They need better QA with players instead of just saying 'hey, surprise! Here's this stuff that you weren't expecting'.
Do you go to forums and ideas? Did you post your thoughts on the dozens of pages and interactions with Rattati there before the changes? I don't remember seeing you there and it seems a little spoiled to complain about not having a say when you were given plenty of opportunity to have a say but didn't take it.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.10.07 13:09:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Rami Hamilo wrote:Orphan Shadow wrote:Rami, you use proper spelling and grammar, and your actual concern is fair discussion, so you seem an intelligent dude. Your OP lacks tact or any evidence of your claims. DEVs don't need to go any further than the title of your post to safely decide to move onto something else. This thread is just one of hundreds, if not thousands, just like it. Yet you legitimately feel a DEV should respond to you. If you want a blue tag, write something with more substance, more content, and you know, do a little investigation first. Come up with a better title. You want effort from CCP, put a little into your post. And apologies to you from me, for coming off too strongly previously. +1 for not overreacting. Wow, some actual constructive comments. Thank you. Unfortunately I'm unable to cite my own personal experiences with the game, since I used my own experiences as examples. I'm pleased to see that the CPM that responded has provided some decent dialog, at least. Honestly, once Borderlands the Pre Sequel comes out and Shadow of Mordor comes to PS3, I won't be playing this game anymore. I just made this thread to hopefully start some sort of meaningful questioning inthe community for how CCP takes care of buffing/nerfing. It really seems like they just look at raw numbers and then fix the firestorm of their tweaking later. Some of the things they change in response to a patch are things that could have been easily caught and fixed in internal testing. They need better QA with players instead of just saying 'hey, surprise! Here's this stuff that you weren't expecting'. Do you go to forums and ideas? Did you post your thoughts on the dozens of pages and interactions with Rattati there before the changes? I don't remember seeing you there and it seems a little spoiled to complain about not having a say when you were given plenty of opportunity to have a say but didn't take it. YOu are assuming I want to impliment some sort of change to the game. You are completely missing my initial question: Do the devs play their game and do they see the effects of said changes themselves? Any same developer would see most of the ganges they have made and go 'oh man, maybe that was a bad idea to do that'. I've never seen a develompent community pretty much ignore their players as bad as CCP has. They didnt need to nerf ADS. At least not for the reasons ratatatata gave. I won't be playing this game when the new Borderlands comes out, so I don't really care if they change things back. I just want to know if they play their own game and are comfortable with the changes despite seeing it first hand. That is what I want to know.
So you are too lazy too look but expect a Dev to answer you. Your question was answered many times and just because you personally are butthurt about some changes doesn't mean that there was no community feedback. I play the game, I like the changes, so what makes your opinion right?
Because, that's why.
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