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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 00:09:00 -
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IF 1 AV = 1 V
Shouldn't the payoffs from killing each other also be equal? |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 01:16:00 -
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The return of vehicle damage was due to the OP nature of vehicles when 1.7 (or was it 1.8) dropped
but if this is the delta balance
Soraya Xel wrote:
One player needs to be able to kill one player. If an AV and an ADS meet somewhere, they should each be capable of killing the other. And the AV should probably have a bit of an advantage, since their primary (or sole, in the case of swarms) role is to kill vehicles, whereas the ADS is much more versatile. And while the ADS has the chance to flee, the swarm launcher often does not.
Then surely AV has the advantage |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 01:53:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:No if a tank runs away like a coward and comes back with full health i should be able to farm wp of of it
So you'd stay and get killed? |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 03:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Jun0n Tristan wrote:Atiim wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:
Then surely AV has the advantage
AV has the disadvantage of being forced to engage in points where the vehicle decides to engage, while the vehicle can choose any practical location on the map to engage, and at anytime. Along with that, Pilots are resilient to AP weapons, which severely reduces the amount of threats they have to deal with. These such advantages will never be obtained by AVers. Are rooftop forges no longer a thing? Forge Gunners on a rooftop are highly susceptible to Sniper Rifles and even RRs in some cases. Though this assertion isn't valid, as it assumes that every AVer is a FG user while discussing a mechanic which effects all AVers. If you find that FGs on the high ground are bothering you, just OHK them with a Charge Sniper Rifle. The only suit that could possibly survive a Headshot would be a Sentinel gk.0, which you can just kill with Small Missiles.
your point was tanks dictate the engagement at any practical location at any time, I am saying this is not the case.
Roof top forges are a valid mechanic |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:45:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:So if i got 24 mil sp in vehicles and you 2 mil sp in AV you are equal to me? Do you know how much SP is invested in my infantry suit? It's comparable. And I still die to you a lot faster.
Does it take the same amount of SP to run the best AV fit compared to best Vehicles fit? maybe
but
Does the best AV fit SP also offer overlap with the best AI fit? yes
Do vehicle skills apply in any other context? No
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:48:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Agreed as long as you can't leave a vehicle if it has below 30% health.
Hell yes, starter fit FTW |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:
your point was tanks dictate the engagement at any practical location at any time, I am saying this is not the case.
Roof top forges are a valid mechanic
Can an AVer attack a Pilot whilst they're in the redline/flight ceiling? Can an AVer attack a Pilot whilst they're all the way across the map If you're trying to say that's not the case, then you're doing a terrible job of it. As for Rooftop forges being a valid mechanic, they aren't the only AV mechanic, making your point null as you're referring to all AV weapons/mechanics.
please re-read |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:56:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:AV is far more balanced against vehicles.
Change it to 50 WP for Vehicle Damage. 75 is a bit much, when its 50 WP for an infantry kill. 50 WP makes more sense, when you compare say a Sentinel with 1500eHP to a Madrugar with 5200eHP. as killing that tank would work out as killing about 4 Sentinels, eHP wise.
it's that you can rack them up pretty quickly as well since most vehicles have a higher repair/recharge rate
slap a few proxs down and you've got yourself 200-350wp |
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