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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:08:00 -
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which is the best scout suit overall....which is good fast has good ehp has good reps.:P ..nd all the good stuff u kno |
Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:13:00 -
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I've heard it's a toss up between the Cal Scout and the Gal Scout. But I don't know the numbers backing them up.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:24:00 -
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There is no best, only balance.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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valad II
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:29:00 -
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cammando 007 wrote:which is the best scout suit overall....which is good fast has good ehp has good reps.:P ..nd all the good stuff u kno
A dead scout? |
cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:40:00 -
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cal scout has presision...and it is a shield tanking and gal scout has dampening..and it is armour tanking...but...gal scout has passive armour rep...but all the most used weapons in dust 514 are more effective in damaging armour....so cal scouts have a advantage of that and cal scouts cant fit modules like gal scouts as a level 3 cal can fit only a RE cloak shotgun submachine gun..but a gal scout can fit..RE cloak shotgun submachine gun armour plates granades and a armour rep (including passive armour rep)..! so its totally cool...but cal scouts can detect every thing...shield tanking makes it more difficult to kill with combat rail and a hmg even side arms like submachine gun..magsec..bolt..flaylock cannot kill it.. EASILY...but a scrambler pistol and rifle.ion pistol and assault rilfe can...but there are were few who use theM now.....so WHICH IS THE BEST...!!!?? CAL OR GAL..! |
cammando 007
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:52:00 -
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okay so let us first take these situations in consideration...(which i have encountered)
cal scout with rail rifle + gal scout with rail rifle = cal scout (wins)
cal scout with combat rifle + gal scout with rail rifle = cal scout (wins)
cal scout with mass driver + gal scout with mass driver = cal scout (Wins)
cal scout with sniper + gal scout with sniper = cal scout (wins)
cal scout with submachine gun, magsec, bolt , flay lock + gal with same weapons....= cal scout (wins) due to armor damage
cal scouts with scrambler rifle pistol ion pistol assault rifle + gal scout with same....= GAL scout (wins)
gal scouts even lose with granades like the locus...........but cal scout can be easily killed with FLUX GRANADES...as it destroyes there SHIELD......
AND GAL SCOUTS HAVE PASSIVE ARMOR REPS.....!!! WHICH NO OTHER SCOUT SUIT HAS IN DUST 514...!
so which is better....CAL OR GAL
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil.
1984
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:53:00 -
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Min has no passive repair but the very diffenition of fun. Gal has passive repair, good speed, good HP, stealth suit. I dont know
about Cal or Amarr cause i dont care for and dont run them. Min more fragile, less stealth, but ridiculous speed AND knife bonus.
Gal can tank hits slightly more, will never show up on any scans if fitted properly [most scrubs dont fit it properly] slower stamina regen
as opposed to mins fast regen, no knife bonus, but has better scans, as opposed to mins not so good scans.
Thats all i can think of at the moment. I know that Amarr has precision bonus and ridiculous stamina and Cal has range bonus and
has the best shield tank better then min i think.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Slowly embracing my inner ninja. Im a decent ghost. And a decent menace.
Mk.0, Gk.0, & 'Sever' Scout
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:54:00 -
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cammando 007 wrote:okay so let us first take these situations in consideration...(which i have encountered)
cal scout with rail rifle + gal scout with rail rifle = cal scout (wins)
cal scout with combat rifle + gal scout with rail rifle = cal scout (wins)
cal scout with mass driver + gal scout with mass driver = cal scout (Wins)
cal scout with sniper + gal scout with sniper = cal scout (wins)
cal scout with submachine gun, magsec, bolt , flay lock + gal with same weapons....= cal scout (wins) due to armor damage
cal scouts with scrambler rifle pistol ion pistol assault rifle + gal scout with same....= GAL scout (wins)
gal scouts even lose with granades like the locus...........but cal scout can be easily killed with FLUX GRANADES...as it destroyes there SHIELD......
AND GAL SCOUTS HAVE PASSIVE ARMOR REPS.....!!! WHICH NO OTHER SCOUT SUIT HAS IN DUST 514...!
so which is better....CAL OR GAL
i am a gallente ...so the above are based on my impressions and situation and experince and armor tanking and shield tanking
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil.
1984
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:55:00 -
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Um, having a specific counter doesnt devalue the suit if youknow how to fit and run it properly.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Slowly embracing my inner ninja. Im a decent ghost. And a decent menace.
Mk.0, Gk.0, & 'Sever' Scout
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:59:00 -
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min scouts are deadly...with knife has lots of SPEED and HACKING SPEED.....and are SHIELD TANKERS ...!! SO U COME SAFETLY AS U CAN BE RESISTIVE TO RAIL RIFLE....COMBAT RIFLE HMG...ALL THE SIDE ARMS...except scr ion.pistols and assault rifle and scr rifle...!! apart from dat ur safe for everything...! but gal scouts....have a good ehp but they are armor so submachine guns like magsec flaylock submachine gun...bolt pistol..! and all the rifles exceot amarr and gal every thing kills gal...! so which is best |
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 05:01:00 -
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ohkay every suit weather its caldari or min or amarr.... when it has an encounter with a gallente suit...the othere three has an advantage...compared to gal...so ..gal is getting the most punch...! even though it has a passive rep anyways it takes half the game to refill the heath bar with passive reps as gal are armor tankers |
cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 05:03:00 -
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so what should i go with caldari or gallente |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil.
1984
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Posted - 2014.10.02 05:04:00 -
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Get both. I like both evenly. Try factional min & gal scouts. Unfortunatley for you no cal & amarr factional suits.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Slowly embracing my inner ninja. Im a decent ghost. And a decent menace.
Mk.0, Gk.0, & 'Sever' Scout
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.02 05:05:00 -
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Gallente scout for certain. You can be completely invisible from passive and active scans while still maintaining a high level of HP, or you can have some major Ewar ability while still having regen and speed. Plus it probably looks the coolest out of the four racial variants.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 05:06:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Gallente scout for certain. You can be completely invisible from passive and active scans while still maintaining a high level of HP, or you can have some major Ewar ability while still having regen and speed. Plus it probably looks the coolest out of the four racial variants.
cal scout look the coolest...gal scouts look like a **** head with a helmet (fishface) |
Francois Sanchez
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:02:00 -
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Gal is the best as it can do everything well and has no drawbacks, even if the cal has that hit detection issue protecting him, he has to make choices whereas gal doesn't |
Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:18:00 -
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if I would train into a scout I would most likely go for amarr becaue he can see everyone on minimap is more like an assault.
i would most likely use a fit like this:
Scout ak.0
Complex Precision Enhancer
Complex Precision Enhancer
Complex Kinetic Catalyzer
Complex Armor Repairer
Complex Armor Plates
Complex Armor Plates
Duvolle Assault Rifle
Six Kin Submachine Gun
Core Locus Grenade
Ishukone Nanohive
Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector |
cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:42:00 -
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but gal scout is 1 to 3 hit kill with explosives killed with half a round of CR and RR |
sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.02 09:24:00 -
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Caldari scout does not have precision. It used to but precision skills are now on the Amarr scout. Caldari scout has dampening and range. Gallente scout has dampening and precision.
Which is the best? Personally I think gallente scout is the best suit overall in the game. Just due to the fact you can be undetectable with it. But for scout work I think Caldari and Gallente are both the best, but for different playstyles. Long range slayer goes to caldari. Close range work gallente. Gallente can fit massive tank too if you want to be something called a 'scrub' (who get no love).
If we're being superficial, caldari scout is the best looking suit. At proto it looks badass.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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xavier zor
UNREAL WARRIORS
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Posted - 2014.10.02 09:36:00 -
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Caldari Scout by far! I have many reasons as well:
You tank shields more...regen is faster compared to armor and with the racial bonus to scan precision, you can dampen it out.
The combat rifle is the most popular weapon used by scouts, along with the assault rifle then the submachine gun. These weapons do more damage to armour, and less to shield meaning they have to shoot more bullets at you than the gallante scout next to you.
They have high electronic warfare potential, and high assault potential.
They have hitbox issues :3
My ck.0 fit:
Boundless Combat Rifle
Ishokune Nova Knives
Ishokune Cloak Field
R-9 Drop Uplink
2 Enhanced Dampeners
1 Complex Shield Extender
2 Enhanced Shield Extenders
scout ck.0 here!
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:38:00 -
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say hello to flux...!! dats a huge problem to you then...! |
Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:41:00 -
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I have both Cal and Gal proto scouts. Before this patch the Gal was better at everything. But now that shields hold up better against projectiles the Cal Scout is very good as a slayer scout.
So if I want a slayer suit I use my cal scout.
If I want fast, sneaky dampened scout I use my gal scout.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:43:00 -
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my gal scout fittings...gk.0
rail rifle
bolt pistol
AN-R cloak
tirage nano hive
armor plates
porfile damp
kinkat
light damage mod
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:46:00 -
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but in a 1vs1 fight who would win....a cal or a gal..both of them are at equal level and both of them have same skills and equipments |
Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:50:00 -
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cammando 007 wrote:but in a 1vs1 fight who would win....a cal or a gal..both of them are at equal level and both of them have same skills and equipments
That would depend entirely on the situation, what their fits are, what weapons they are using and the players individual skill. With all things equal I would say it's 50/50 on who wins.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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cammando 007
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:53:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:cammando 007 wrote:but in a 1vs1 fight who would win....a cal or a gal..both of them are at equal level and both of them have same skills and equipments That would depend entirely on the situation, what their fits are, what weapons they are using and the players individual skill. With all things equal I would say it's 50/50 on who wins.
same skills equipment guns and all..r same expect the suit....! and the winner is the best scout suit...and i would definetlt choose that one |
Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.02 11:09:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:
The combat rifle is the most popular weapon used by scouts, along with the assault rifle then the submachine gun. These weapons do more damage to armour
AR is strong against shields btw
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Mejt0
The Only Survivor.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 12:47:00 -
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There isnt best scout.
However every scout is better at something.
Eg.
Minja - best hacker&knifer
Gallente - best slayer from scouts category (4low slots gives him also more versality)
Caldari - almost like gal but shield based. Only 2 lows.
Amarr - best scanning&light assault type of scout
In short. Gal/cal focused on slaying.
Minja/amarr focused more on teamplay.
Ps. I'd suggest minja/gal. They do thier job.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Mejt0
The Only Survivor.
472
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Posted - 2014.10.02 12:50:00 -
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cammando 007 wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:cammando 007 wrote:but in a 1vs1 fight who would win....a cal or a gal..both of them are at equal level and both of them have same skills and equipments That would depend entirely on the situation, what their fits are, what weapons they are using and the players individual skill. With all things equal I would say it's 50/50 on who wins. same skills equipment guns and all..r same expect the suit....! and the winner is the best scout suit...and i would definetlt choose that one
There is not. If both have equal skill (player skill and invested sp) then its situational who will win. It would depend on lag,accuracy,usage of terrain etc.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:58:00 -
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Cal. scout is better due to the broken hitbox it has. You can literally dance infront of a HMG and kill the heavy with it. And that you have 50HP/s shield regen makes it nice too. Gal. scouts are armor tanked and their armor regen is slow and plates slow it down aswell. Another thing is the bonuses that scouts get.
amarr= scan precision+stamina
caldari= damps+scan range
gallente= damps+scan precision (precision is worse then amarr!)
minmatarr= hacking speed+ knife damage
Amarr is the slowest and you might would think that the scan bonus would be nice to detect other scouts, but it only has 2 high slots and the precision you achieve can easy be countered with 2 profile damps on gal+cal scouts. So that bonus is pretty much wasted and you are stuck with the slowest scout in the game.
Gallente has the same damp bonus like the caldari but has a horrible precision bonus which is not worth it. The max you need to dodge hardcore scans are 2 damps+a cloak and thats about it. Good dampening bonus bad precision
Minmatarr are extremely niche due to knifes and hacking but they aswell have the lowest amount of HP out of all 4 suits. You could say that they are the fastest suits but minnie scouts fall over dead allmost instantly when they get shot at.
Caldari has the overpowered combination of scan range (hunting medium+heavys) and dampening (staying under the radar). At advanced it gets 2 low slots and thats all you will ever need for ewar in terms of range extension for scans and dampening. Then you aswell have ridicoulus shield regen and a broken hitbox. Its the best suit to prey on other players.
So lest recap this:
Calscout cancels out the precision bonuses from amarr+gallente quite easy, it has the longest passive scan range, best regen, no mobility drawback (if you dont use plates) and its hard to hit due to its hitbox.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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