IWS shitting out anecdotal evidence again.

Sure, I'd buy that, if you could actually get any sort of coverage on them. See, some of the legitimate snipers would actually use the high ground to snipe the drop-uplink off the roof or even kill people that -aren't- on the very edge. With this range change you might as well just ditch the rifle, grab a forge gun, and don the zoom function on your television. Or, even better, get a television/monitor with a built in crosshair.

I'd have stuck with the old stats. More worthwhile to have longer range and the ability to suppress units on the rooftops/kill their equipment then to outright kill them and not be able to actively get them off the roof.

Sure, but do so as a -sniper-. An M16 now has longer effective range than a Sniper Rifle in Dust 514. I don't understand why there couldn't have just been a high damage/low range variant added on that could have made everyone happy.

from my experience the changes made counter sniping harder.
you have to move closer thus are easily spotted before you can actually counter snipe.

just imagine the Caldari sniper rifle in Arma 3 with the efficient range off 12000 m

Ok so basically, you can f**k off. That's the new stance on snipers. You're K/D is too high, so we're removing the range from your ranged weapon. Go cry in a.. oh you're playing something else already.

We all know the sniper rifle can only be used from distances which in real life would be considered extreme: The sort of range you see in films like Shooter, Enemy at the Gates, but NOT the likely range used by snipers covering friendlies in the field, who tend to be a lot closer (as far as my armchair expertise goes).

I want real sniper rifles. The new range is fine for me, but can I get something that I can aim at a target, say 250m away but also kill someone 30m away; something I can use quickly and then move, not sit on a hive in the hills all day relentlessly executing the same clueless, respawning noob and the occasional scout.

I don't snipe. The action in this game is too intense and I like to be involved directly, not watching from the red zone. But the real reason is. The rifle is ****. I know it is for balance, but why would anyone ever make a mag-fed rifle with only 3 Fuggin bullets per CliP!! It is boring. And I don't always have a mouse handy.

I only counter-snipe. Something I will do begrudgingly if I die three times to the same sniper. And then I always win. Always, love sniping! Love it. I think people who do it all day are twats.

Yup, that's you.

I don't care anymore, sorry.

Can we STOP rebalancing this game now please!

Binoculars and Tagging

Binoculars, telescopes, things wot allow you to see far without using a rifle scope. Soldiers have 'em now, why not in the future?

I am a scout and I play like a scout. I actually 'scout' I don't engage unless I have advantage, I don't shotgun cloak 'n runoft, I don't use knifes. I keep at range, hack in silence and keep good comms with my teammates. Great aren't I?

I just want some binoculars, so I can spot for snipers and tanks and everyone else. I also need to be able to TAG targets: The technology is already there within the game and it is broken: A squad leader can call out a target, such as an HAV and it'll stay highlighted for all to see forever. That doesn't make sense - how can the scanner keep track of something it cannot detect?

But what I suggest is better and fair. If you have a foe in sight with a red triangle overhead you should be able to 'tag' him - highlight him so he appears as a priority target on your allies' radars. It makes tactical sense, it is fair, it is a communication and warning device: It is cool. Once he is without range of all scanners he appears normal again.

But tanks are way too sneaky: They are big, loud, noisy but if one ducks in cover for a second it disappears from your radar: this is silly. It should be tracked and obvious - once you've seen it and as long as it is in range it MUST be visible; how can it not be? Also it should take at least 3 seconds to fade away - even with headphones I cannot tell the direct a tank is in - that is due to lack of comms between your in game character to you the user not in game perception and must be rectified.

this is not a balance - it is a mechanic fault fix

Had a terrible scenario earlier today while playing Dust 514.

I went to the 2nd ring on the orbital bombardment, in the city on bridge map.

@ 375m away was the enemy supply depot..

meaning the rooftop there is 400m

meaning I can't cover the back area near the objective

meaning I can't cover their sniper covered hilltop next to their home point / red line


This was my first experience being choked by the new range nerf. I was very unhappy.

"Oh charge rifles are not meant for overwatch"

The first thing you say is they're 50m too short of being meant for overwatch.

Do you know what 50m is? And how ridiculous that sounds?

50m is 1/12th of the original 600m sniper range (effectively nothing)



If you told a sniper that their 600m sniper rifle wasn't "meant for overwatch" because let's say a 650m sniper rifle existed.

How do you think anyone listening would react?

The difference between 400-450m is of random to little benefit to the sniper. Not having the full 600m is enough to make the current 400m feel awful. Again you've taken 1/12th of the original sniping distance, and ascribing it to have enough value to determine overwatch. Although it looks good on paper to have a wide variety of ranges for these guns, they're all too short, and the ranges too insignificant. Practical application sucks, find another answer to your red line problems and stop taking it out on snipers.