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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.09.30 19:52:00 -
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Currently the Militia Nova Knives have a base damage of 100 HP per blade before charge. Using Protofits.com as a reference...
100*1.15*1.25=143.75 HP per blade before charge.
This is accounting for max proficiency and dropsuit bonus only.
143.75*1.06*1.0521*1.0342=165.79 HP per blade before charge rounded down.
This is accounting for 3 enhanced sidearm damage mods on a Scout M/1-Series Suit. Stacking penalties included.
165.79*2*2.5=828.95 HP assuming both blades make contact and are charged.
Please take this into consideration before deciding to stab a heavy. This amount of damage will restrict you to assaults and other scouts. Approach heavies at your own risk.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.09.30 20:02:00 -
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Extraneus Tenebrarum wrote:Krator Kosta Nostra wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Currently the Militia Nova Knives have a base damage of 100 HP per blade before charge. Using Protofits.com as a reference...
100*1.15*1.25=143.75 HP per blade before charge.
This is accounting for max proficiency and dropsuit bonus only.
143.75*1.06*1.0521*1.0342=165.79 HP per blade before charge rounded down.
This is accounting for 3 enhanced sidearm damage mods on a Scout M/1-Series Suit. Stacking penalties included.
165.79*2*2.5=828.95 HP assuming both blades make contact and are charged.
Please take this into consideration before deciding to stab a heavy. This amount of damage will restrict you to assaults and other scouts. Approach heavies at your own risk. Melee hit first for 120 , then charge strike for the 828 ;) = Mostly dead heavy. Melee does not affect nova knifes
He meant that you punch them first and then stab.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.01 00:48:00 -
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Krator Kosta Nostra wrote:Cyrus Grevare wrote:Sorry for that, I created the militia variant before we had the stats for it revealed, I updated the stats to those shown in game now (100 base damage & PG/CPU).
o7 Ah, ty - unfortunately that means everything I previously posted is incorrect with regards to the NK's, Fortunately, everything Maken Tosch posted IS correct, so we can continue with those numbers.
Yeah, I predicted that the Protofits number was incorrect at the time of my original posting because I bothered to look at the in-game numbers first before referring to Protofits. I was using Protofits' formula (not the base number) as a reference. So yeah, I'm correct in my math.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.01 00:51:00 -
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Extraneus Tenebrarum wrote:Does melee apply only once every time I hit R1 or every nova knife swipe
Never. Melee and Nova Knives apply their damage separately. If you want Nova Knives to apply damage, hit the main trigger. If you want to apply Melee damage, hit the other trigger. If you want to apply both damages at once, tough luck because it ain't gonna happen.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.01 00:54:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Well, I have taken down a G/1 Sentinel with standard nova knives, so killing sentinels is not out of the question. Just a safe bet not to.
Then the only reason you took down the Sentinel was because either A) the Sentinel user was new to that specialty and didn't fit his suit properly or B) didn't have his core skills maxed out beforehand and was a glass cannon at the time.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.01 03:42:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:Well, I have taken down a G/1 Sentinel with standard nova knives, so killing sentinels is not out of the question. Just a safe bet not to. Then the only reason you took down the Sentinel was because either A) the Sentinel user was new to that specialty and didn't fit his suit properly or B) didn't have his core skills maxed out beforehand and was a glass cannon at the time. Uh, it was 2 charged strikes plus two uncharged. That puts it at 2(480) + 2(240) = 1440, not including my 5% proficiency. No Min bonus. It's likely for a GalSent to run 1440+ hP. I'm going to go with his unmaxed core skills and my unprecedented luck. Pretty sure he was in a stompsquad that time.
Wait, what? That math doesn't make sense. A standard nova knife without min bonus and not including proficiency can't possibly make that much damage. According to Protofits, a standard nova knife has a base damage of 166.68 HP and that's with max proficiency with 3 complex sidearm damage mods on but without the suit bonus. That brings the damage to 833.4 HP with both strikes and fully charged.
Assuming you wore a bonused minscout suit, that would bring the total up to 1041.75 HP, not 1440 HP on standard knives. Are you sure you didn't incidentally fit Ishukones?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9601
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Posted - 2014.10.01 03:49:00 -
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Forget everything I just said in that reply. XD Sorry.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9601
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Posted - 2014.10.01 03:54:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Forget everything I just said in that reply. XD Sorry. And I think I'm the one with the math wrong! 
It's almost midnight over here and I didn't get proper sleep the night before.
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