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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.09.30 03:31:00 -
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Buff us, Nerf us. Hate us, Love us. Shoot us, Fly with us. You will never take our love!
All footage pre-Charlie. Just something to demonstrate where we were, and where we can hopefully get closer to. Unite fellow pilots!
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:25:00 -
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I love it! Plus 1 right back at you
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:42:00 -
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CamClarke wrote:I may just not give up on the Python after all, Darth. Thank you for reminding me of the freedom of the sky, rather than the shackles of the land.
I wish Judge were here.
@Soraya: Only OP thing I saw was the skill stacking Python, which as a pilot pre-Delta I found abhorrent and abusive.
It's not like they pulled AV on him, except for one MLT swarm at the supply depot. Even a 0 SP Soma can produce results like that if there's no AV. You want to nerf 0 SP Somas too? While you're at it, you should make all swarm launchers fire null cannon missiles.
Oh wait, that would still require using an AV weapon to fight a vehicle. Make all the rifles fire null cannon missiles instead.
Keep flying, Cam! Dropships are not useless, despite what some may tell you. With the proper amount of skill and teamwork we are still lethal.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.09.30 15:01:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Look at all the OP. Look at it!
(Fair note: Darth is actually an incredible beast no matter what weapon he is wielding.)
CamClarke wrote:@Soraya: Only OP thing I saw was the skill stacking Python, which as a pilot pre-Delta I found abhorrent and abusive.
It's not like they pulled AV on him, except for one MLT swarm at the supply depot. Even a 0 SP Soma can produce results like that if there's no AV. You want to nerf 0 SP Somas too? While you're at it, you should make all swarm launchers fire null cannon missiles.
Oh wait, that would still require using an AV weapon to fight a vehicle. Make all the rifles fire null cannon missiles instead.
Addressing both of you, I agree there were overpowered factors at play, and pilot stacking in particular gathered a lot of hate. But there is a silver lining... Anybody try stacking now? The fire rate is a bit less than a fully skilled pilot used to produce.
With all the call for teamwork and vehicles needing more than one occupant to function effectively (soraya), I think stacking has become a feature, rather than a bug. Firepower at the cost of EHP? Millions of skillpoints required to function at peak capacity? I like it where it is.
Now, to fix the Incubus' overheat mechanics...
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.09.30 17:34:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Keep flying my brother! Never give up the struggle! Even though we have been savagely beaten by the CCPolice, I will still push through and fight with my baby Laira!
We may have different styles, but I love the message o7
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:05:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Are we ever going to deal with the absolutely insane and stupid collision mechanic with dropships? I am seriously fed up of getting into a fight in my Python VS an Incubus only for them to slam on their AB and charge into me giving no pre warning, they crash into my flimsy python, I die of course and they continue on like nothing ever happened.
As it stands the Armour dropships always have the upper hand as they can always get more hitpoints than us shield dropships.
The ramming NEEDS to be fixed. However I will say that because of the huge RoF nerfs it is near impossible for any ADS to kill another ADS in the skies, unless one pilot is really bad. Like really bad doesn't even move bad.
I'm all for balance changes to make ADS fair but lets not overlook fairness for the pilots.
Dropship fights have always been incredibly awkward, and I'm not sure how we can fix it. Collision damage however... As you saw in the video, an Incubus can crash into the ground all day, but try that in a Python and watch your isk go up in flames.
Crashing into stuff should have consequences, of course, but the disparity between crashing an armor dropship vs crashing a shield dropship is just too extreme.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.01 20:15:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I watched a PC battle on Youtube from Espeon's perspective and it made me feel like the worst video game player in history.
ADS pilots are my heroes.
QQing about ADS being OP is probably the #1 sign that you are a hopeless scrub.
lol More people should try it, I agree.
Perhaps the buff to standard dropships will get more people flying, and in turn, lead to more of a mix between air and ground combat. Dogfighting has always been pretty painful, especially Python Vs Python, but it's something that players should get to experience.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Honest question.
Do people really feel that ADSs are underpowered, or are you pushing a personal agenda?
Atiim, show me where I said dropships are underpowered. Please.
Most rational people don't think dropships are weak right now, although the Incubus is very debatable. I can understand the confusion though. Most "Dropship" threads are filled with nothing but hateful vitriol, both for and against the nerf.
Basically, I'm not sure whether you're asking me a legitimate question to satisfy your desire to understand the thought process of forum warriors, or for some other reason. Maybe personal agendas are alive and well on both sides of the debate?
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:51:00 -
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Derrith just laid out some excellent points, the kind you'll hear from professional, rational pilots.
And just to be clear, Atiim, neither myself or Derrith (as far as I know) came to this thread for for an argument. Rather, we came to show how much we love our chosen role, and that we are passionate enough to have constructive discussions to promote said role.
Just thought I'd throw that out their to prevent any misunderstandings
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:53:00 -
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Orphan Shadow wrote:Ah man. I clicked on this thread for the tears. And there ain't none. Bummer. Moving along...
This is a No-Tear establishment, we're pretty proud of it. Our popcorn is one hundred percent Rage-Butter free!
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:33:00 -
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Riptalis wrote:Need input: how are dropships (Python) now ?
Haven't played since pretty much Charlie. (2 games precisely)
Pythons, in my opinion, are pretty much fine in the way they handle. The actual Python Operation skill needs looking at, as the bonus it provides is now hardly worth skilling in to, but the ship itself is okay.
Incubus on the other hand... For what it was intended to do, anti-vehicle, it is severely underpowered.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.04 03:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:
Atiim, show me where I said dropships are underpowered. Please.
Most rational people don't think dropships are weak right now, although the Incubus is very debatable. I can understand the confusion though. Most "Dropship" threads are filled with nothing but hateful vitriol, both for and against the nerf.
Basically, I'm not sure whether you're asking me a legitimate question to satisfy your desire to understand the thought process of forum warriors, or for some other reason. Maybe personal agendas are alive and well on both sides of the debate?
In your original post, you show a video of the pre-HF Delta Python and state that you could "hopefully get closer to" that; I seem to have misinterpreted that, but at the time it appeared as if you wish to buff it . I asked you simply because it seemed as if you thought they were underpowered, and I wanted to know why. I can assure you that beyond re-introducing vehicles, I no longer have agendas to push in vehicle threads. Thanks to you (and Derrith) for explaining your thoughts on the ADS though.
Understood. What I meant was I hope we could get closer to how the Incubus was, not so much the Python. I should have specified.
By reintroducing vehicles, do you mean the enforcer tanks and logistics variants? Because I'm totally on-board for that. I miss my Eryx so much...
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.04 15:32:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote: wow watching this vid is 10x better with this song.....
Only 10x? lol Whatever makes you happy, bro
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.07 20:19:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:Definitely need to tweak our forward guns for sure.
With the Small Rails being first in line.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:17:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:I like kitties
Of course. Was it ever in doubt?
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:20:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:I don't mean damage, I mean the targeting system. Its complete ****. I can get kills, but it doesn't feel *natural*.
Do you mean the targeting reticule/aiming mechanism? Can you pinpoint some of the problems you feel it has? How would you improve it?
CCP changed the snipers reticule. It's possible they could do the same for dropships, although I'm not sure it needs to be changed currently.
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