The redline snipers only have the range to reach up to the home point objective.

Been playing with all three rifles lately and find them very useful in a variety of situations now, I have noticed there are many more scoot and move snipers these days and fewer of the heavy suit snipers.

Snipers still seem to have the bad case of the tunnel vision though stabbed another guy approaching from his front in a dash to stab him before time ran out.

Counter sniping is fun and feasible game of cat and mouse and it gets the heart pumping as your chances of taking them out are nearly as equal provided you find them first or they find you and who can line up the dots the fastest.

Overall the guns feel like they cannot suffer any additional real range nerfs because as many pointed out maps are a fault not the gun and this starts to begin playing into forge gun territory as a competitive gun which is a bit silly for it to. There are however ways to cut into that such as decreasing zoom further, or moving the max effective range so that maybe 300 meters you're getting 100% and 50% damage scale down at current max ranges and maybe reducing power projection in other ways though I do not look forward to doing those either.

Right now the damage is from what I am seeing so far from most folks spot on. Range is now the primary issue still. I now enjoy seeing all three rifle types on the kill feeds instead of the previous charge one before. So rifles are currently still not perfect for dust but they're much better and closer to needs of the game than ever before.

Can you please indicate which maps you are experiencing this on?
With how sniper rifles work now, if someone is sniping from 200-300m within their redline, that leaves about 100m for them to shoot out of the redline.

On most maps, this BARELY reaches their home point.

If you are getting sniped, and you are SURE it's a redline sniper, that means you are too close to their redline... and this is working as intended.

Remember the problem wasn't that you could be killed from the redline, it was that redline snipers could literally snipe across the entire map. This has been solved.

So if you can indicate which maps this has NOT been solved on, then you'll have a point of argument.

What you are asking for is a clay sculpture when all I have are paintbrushes and a canvas.

Redline properties is something that currently as far as I am aware is not feasible for a hot fix and I wish players would stop thinking it is a possible solution.

The range nerf did seriously though cut into how much deep into the redline immunity they have on several maps and the zoom nerf on the thales removed its rendering immunity from other sniper rifles and one major overall effect is that these snipers are now dying much more frequently than before to other snipers because the op for now has a chance to spawn and plan an approach where the sniper does not have full coverage or dominance.

Maps like manus peak are though still very bad because there is only about 100 meters of shared play room and snipers have about 250+ deep into the zone. Once again problem with the maps themselves. The redline mechanic itself can be seemingly viewed as a poorly designed mechanic as well but also I can challenge that notion saying its a poorly wielded mechanic by the map design team on those maps. Previous incarnates of the redlines on the older maps had lead to redlining and camping, oftel. The newer maps represent what a perfected layout of redlines, map zones, and map lay should look like these places and with current sniper ranges really do force snipers into the field though they may still skirt the edge of area of intended combat there is nothing stopping a cloaker from going up to and laying an RE on their heads to kill them.

Hi 3 Rail tanks would like to camp your zone.

Oh no, I wasn't annoyed that he thought we were in the redline just because we killed him, what I'm annoyed about is that he was so silly to think that when he had actually come right up to us to kill us, thus standing in the not-red-line spot we were sat in. If we were in the redline, then he would have been dead after he stood there trying to shoot me for a good 20 seconds while I ran away. So I think part of the problem is that the people who claim snipers are in the redline just can't tell what's redline and what's not (clue: the bit with red stripes on it in your radar/where yo suicide if you've been there too long).

If I was in the redline, I'd put my hands up and admit to it. But I do try and stay out the redline as a general rule.



Yep. Why do people want snipers nerfed when cloaked shotgunners are much worse.

I honestly think there's less risk to running around invisible than sitting in the redline. When I have been sat in the redline, I've been killed plenty. When I ran around invisible once or twice, I managed to survive for ages!

(But please don't remove cloaks. I find killing a cloaker far more satisfying than killing a scout without one. (not as satisfying as taking out a sentinel with a sniper rifle though)

Removing WP for killing while in the redline won't work - if you're being redlined, there's not much of an option but to kill in the redline.

I've had to snipe a few people from within my redline because they camp just outside it and headshot you as you try to get into the match.

The maps need changing in their entirety. If the redline was always a flat, empty area and the maps had lots of nice little hidey holes for snipers, then I'm pretty sure that would solve the problem. Or make the redline in a crater so you can't see out of it unless you climb up and skyline yourself, thus clearly showing your position.