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shaman oga
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Posted - 2014.09.29 12:48:00 -
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Here some points i would like to discuss.
Slot progression
I would give logi the same slot progression of assault. at std and adv level.
Stats
This need more attention, i don't know what CCP thinks about logi, are they a class between scout and assaults or a between assault and heavies?
The stats are contradictory, compared to assaults they have: less HP and slightly better EW and more equipments, this seem to put them next to scout class, but they also have worst biotics related stats (stamina, speed, etc.) and on this, the logi are next to heavy class.
I think there should be a choice to be made: increase their biotics stats and bring logi between scouts and assaults or increase HP, decrease EW and keep current speed to bring logi between assaults and heavies (i prefer the first).
I'm not the most indicated person to talk about shield related stats, i guess someone will, but i think shield stat should reflect the choice CCP will made on the previous argument.
Sidearm only
Have only one weapon it's already a great disadvantage in combat, even if current side arms are a viable option (you still need to have 2 of them), light weapons are more reliable and you can't depend on other players for everything.
So, my opinion is NO, logi should keep their light weapon slot.
Sidearm slot
This will hurt Amarr sensibility, but when all the other class can hold 2 weapons, why have you chosen a logi?
There are 16 other kind of suit which can use 2 weapons, pick one of them.
People play as a logi when they want to support their team with more equipments, not with more guns.
I think this is all, if you have some other key points feel free to answer and i will insert them in the OP.
Discuss.
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shaman oga
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Posted - 2014.09.29 14:34:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:You see this gets difficult because you could argue both ways quite easily.
One logi might be suited towards repair work and front-line support, going into fierce battle with friendly heavies against other heavies , vehicles, enemy assaults etc.. and needed as much protection in battle as possible.
Then on the other hand you could argue a different type of logi might be a behind the enemy lines type of support logi, laying down uplinks, hacking objectives and utilising ewar similar to a scout, or perhaps going to the aftermath of battles with a nanite injector, staying away from front line battles.
In each case one part argues the "in between Heavy and Assault" position and the other indicated the "in between scouts and assault" idea.
Type A / Type B variations perhaps? Best of both worlds?
Imo Min logi is the best logi to use as a prototype for the other logi if "fast logi" is the way to go, it has already the slot layout progression of the assault and mobility values are better than the rest, you can fit it for both the roles you have listed.
More tanky to chase heavies and rep people or more mobile/agressive to sneak behind enemy lines and provide uplinks.
Personally, i use gal logi for the sneaky role and min logi to rep, but while min logi can be fitted to play in both ways, i've more problems to fit the gal for reparations, tank it would be the best way to survive in crowded zones where heavies/assault must operate, but it also slows you and you can't chase heavies and assault effectively.
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shaman oga
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Posted - 2014.09.29 18:18:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Ide rather leave logis where they are than force them to be sidearm only ..Personally i think a biotic boost is in order ..Logis don't need to tank more just move faster..
But then I'm an amar logi so my opinion is based on that..my logi can barely keep up and it's responsibility is links scuffles.
Nobody here thinks that logi should have a sidearm only slot, light weapon slot is good in it's place.
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shaman oga
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Posted - 2014.09.29 19:14:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:The only buff Logis need is the removal of the Scout's 2nd equipment slot.
Once I've tried to logi with a scout.
Deleted the fit after 30 seconds.
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shaman oga
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Posted - 2014.09.30 09:58:00 -
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@TechMechMeds
Thanks for the bump.
As long as a thread is about Dust514 related stuff there's no need to redirect on other threads, there's no QQ or ranting in my OP, maybe is not 100% complete, i didn't mention skill bonus (but i find the acceptable at the moment), if you don't like it, bring your arguments or refrain to post here.
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