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CCP Rattati wrote:

medomai grey wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

medomai grey wrote:

CCP Rattati, I think it would be faster to go in game and get another player to lend you ADSs to experience it for yourself. Don't ask me because I'd charge you isk for each one.

Trying to balance the interactions between A and B while only having experience with A seems... difficult.

Let's get one thing straight, this is not about me. Period.

It's about trying to achieve balance, the job you were tasked with.

If you took offence to my post, know that it was not written with the intent as an insult. I was merely suggesting a method of getting a better view of the "bigger picture". And you are putting effort into seeing a "bigger picture" to achieve a more balanced game; I respect that.

You were right in that the ADS rate of fire bonus was oddly high. But you lacked the ADS experience to know how adversely it would affect ADS's effectiveness against other vehicles. Having experience with not only ADS, but all items in Dust514 will go a long way in helping you balance items.

Increasing the rate of fire bonus isn't the only solution to increasing ADS effectiveness against vehicles. For example, you could tweak the damage efficiencies against vehicles; although I am strongly against that idea because it's counter intuitive.

I knew, but the community refused to propose ideas or numbers to affect the decision. Noone can be an expert in everything and I don't pretend to. However, thinking that my ability with the ADS or that I need to see something with my own eyes, to properly balance, is silly. You are the experts, you describe the problem and how to change it, or in this case, you admit there is a problem and propose ways to reduce the problem.


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Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD RUST415 275	Posted - 2014.10.16 13:54:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: medomai grey wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: medomai grey wrote: CCP Rattati, I think it would be faster to go in game and get another player to lend you ADSs to experience it for yourself. Don't ask me because I'd charge you isk for each one. Trying to balance the interactions between A and B while only having experience with A seems... difficult. Let's get one thing straight, this is not about me. Period. It's about trying to achieve balance, the job you were tasked with. If you took offence to my post, know that it was not written with the intent as an insult. I was merely suggesting a method of getting a better view of the "bigger picture". And you are putting effort into seeing a "bigger picture" to achieve a more balanced game; I respect that. You were right in that the ADS rate of fire bonus was oddly high. But you lacked the ADS experience to know how adversely it would affect ADS's effectiveness against other vehicles. Having experience with not only ADS, but all items in Dust514 will go a long way in helping you balance items. Increasing the rate of fire bonus isn't the only solution to increasing ADS effectiveness against vehicles. For example, you could tweak the damage efficiencies against vehicles; although I am strongly against that idea because it's counter intuitive. I knew, but the community refused to propose ideas or numbers to affect the decision. Noone can be an expert in everything and I don't pretend to. However, thinking that my ability with the ADS or that I need to see something with my own eyes, to properly balance, is silly. You are the experts, you describe the problem and how to change it, or in this case, you admit there is a problem and propose ways to reduce the problem. The reason we cannot define the problem with numbers is because, on paper, everything looks balanced. Our problem with flying, although sometimes over-dramatized, come from the real game experience. For example, a one on one fight between an ADS and AV may look balanced on TTK and the ability to escape, but due to a multitude of issues such as hit detection with vehicles and Rendering problems, its difficult to accurately determine the situation. nothing about your statistics also claim for the Jet Ramming that has become an issue for pilots. even though you have superior movement and speed, they can easily sneak up on you from above, as you cannot hear or see them until it is too late to react. Numbers are only half the battle, to understand the game fully, you need to listen to the pilots personal experiences. Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault Adapt or Die!