Looking at dropships compared to other vehicles, we are fairly happy with how the Python is playing out right now.

The Incubus is still very powerful but not as powerful as the Python.

Personally, not a fan of the rapid fire railgun turrets, please keep that in mind.
Also keep in mind that the ROF on railLAV's was reduced on purpose, due to infantry sniping.

Maybe a combination of increasing the Incubus bonus to ROF slightly, or simply removing the 70% rail turret inefficiency against vehicles and then increasing chargeup time rather than decreasing ROF to balance? Or heat?

The Myron is just not very good at all, and nothing changed with the increased EHP/PG/CAP and Turret changes.
On the Myron/Grimsnes, someone advocated more maneuverability without increased speed, sounds like a fine idea.

Experienced Myron pilots, what about it's fitting style or bonuses makes it so much worse than the Python.

(A similar question but off topic, the Gunnlogi is quite less efficient than the Madrugar, bonus points to explain why)

I think we should also establish a few rules of thumb

Anti Air
Pilot: Missiles, Rails, Blaster
Sidegunner - Dropship: Rails, Missile, Blaster
Sidegunner - ADS: Rails, Missile, Blaster

With the nerf to the ADS rate of fire bonus to only 3% per level it has made going to level 5 a little pointless and has brought on complaints from the pilots who did have the skill at level 5 already
So now that there is only a small difference between level 5 rof and standard rof how about changing the rof bonus to a reloading bonus like maybe 5% per level

A buff I would find acceptable:
Armor repair Vehicles have a skill to boost the EFFECTIVENESS of armor repair, give shields a skill to boost the effectiveness of Shield Boosters, to match. This would really make my day.

Has anyone else noticed that Rattati hasn't said much of anything while we've been going over random numbers ourselves? It seems kind of odd to me. Are you even watching?

I do hope CCP Rattati is looking at this thread.

I'm still listening

There is nothing to listen to anymore here.
ADS is still effective at taking out infantry, not so viable for taking out tanks anymore, but it should be like that. Tanks can't shhot up on a hovering dropship.

I see where you're coming from, but let's give an infantry example. What if sentinels want another role besides being shoehorning into point defense? Should we give them better speed and ewar so they can be good at that too? No, we would tell them to get a scout suit. The same applies here. If you want to kill infantry, bring out a Python. If you want to bust tanks, an incubus. If you want to transport squads, a grimsnes. The right tool for the right job.

The same goes for vehicles. We should have a drop ship that specializes in transport. Another that specializes in infantry suppression. Another that specializes in vehicle hunting. Another that specializes in staying power. The right vehicle for the right role. This is why I want ADS to focus on attack. Leave scouting to scouts and transporting to transport DS. The assault drop ship should assault.

Not bad but missile are multipurpose weapon and without the ROF a python alone can't kill a tank.

This is very incorrect. Having a hefty amount of skill points in both the Incubus and Python this thought is misplaced. I think it is more so on the lines that the Incubus takes too much damage from the weapons like swarms and forge guns. I have yet to see anyone successfully shoot at me with a plasma cannon so I will hold out on saying that perhaps it is just as strong. A/V and HAV's need to be balanced with all the other vehicles. Once that happens we will have a much clearer picture of whats going on with damage profiles for the Incubus and Python.

Every time someone pulls out swarms against an ads we have no warning of imminent impact, I understand tanks have a proximity explosive beeping warning, that is why I believe one simple and incredibly useful countermeasure that does not affect ads stats would be the introduction of a "lock warning" similar to most if not all modern aircraft. The swarm is not a random fire weapon and therefore it's lock should be detected as a precursor to impact.

This would also in fact help get rid of the problem of swarms not rendering as not only will swarmers be unable to have 2 volleys in the air before a pilot realises he is in for certain death, but also it will highlight potentially dangerous areas to pilots, allowing for more tactical gameplay between the av deterrent and the ads threat. Forge guns do not have a proximity warning as they are skilful and player targeted weapons. Having swarms that deal lethal damage without warning is similar to a heat seeking bolt pistol... A bolt pistol needs only 3 rounds to kill most medium tank frames, why would you allow such a ludicrously easy weapon to exist...

My second point is about ads manouverability

Lastly I feel that swarms need a slight tone down in terms of either maximum flight range or manouverability/speed aspects...

The afterburner claims to provide a 150% thrust increase yet swarms still catch up rather easily with an afterburner on in a dropship speeding away as fast as possible.

Just a note about this point, as an ADS pilot, I would prefer the wild bucking of the ship STAY when getting hit by weapons that merit the behavior. I personally find it adds way more to the immersion and wouldn't be fun to have this removed. It adds risk to flying too close to the ground or to walls when AV might be present, and it gives even the militia variants of a weapon a CHANCE to take me out if he hits me at just the right angle to make me hit something in my surroundings.