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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:

Henrietta Unknown wrote:

I have to admit, the event does not reflect well on the Magsec's average killing ability. A tryhard who is probably also a RR enthusiast, pumping out some 80 kills an hour, assuming he's playing 23 hours straight, is not a representation of the typical player who just "likes" to run a Magsec.

Not to be bitter about him, but his count, helped by boosting or not, isn't going to highlight the inherent problems of the Magsec. I might as well say it is the poorest-performing weapon aside from the Flaylock.

Well, CCP Frame did repost a revised listing in this thread about the event numbers. The revised listing is a little more than halfway down the first page, though I'll list the numbers here just for comparison:

#1 MLT Bolt, 999 kills
#2 MLT Ion, 877 kills
#3 MLT Scrambler, 617 kills
#4 MLT Knives, 515 kills
#5 MLT Flaylock, 361 kills
#6 MLT SMG, 277 kills

And a drumroll for the dead last place weapon: #7, the MLT Magsec, at a whopping 195 kills. The bolt has an ~14% increase in killcount compared to the Ion, which is the next lowest. The difference between the SMG and the Magsec is 42%! (I use the SMG for comparison since it's the closest in killcount to the Magsec, much the same way the bolt and ion are very close.)

So it's actually a lot less than the original numbers indicate, and IMO is somewhat more reflective of what I'm seeing in the matches I'm playing (IE, when MLT sidearms show up it's mostly bolt and ion pistols).

Of course, the updated numbers actually do reflect quite poorly on the Magsec... but whether or not the event is providing extreme bias against the Magsec I couldn't say.

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Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3667	Posted - 2014.09.28 03:53:00 - [1] - Quote So, who'll be going for what this coming month? Ready to rip it up with Militia Nova Knives, or will you be scrambling heads with the Militia Scrambler Pistol? Perhaps you'll be going for a number of weapons? I'll be going for the Ion Pistol. Liked those things before the buff, love them after it. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Submachine Gun: Scrambler Pistol: Nova Knives: Flaylock Pistol: Bolt Pistol: Magsec Submachine Gun: Ion Pistol: Joel II X
Jaselyn Cabellos G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 105	Posted - 2014.09.28 03:58:00 - [2] - Quote Bolt Pistol, after I finish about 400 kills with the Kaalakiota I will be going for the Militia. Although I do suppose it is kind of unfair to be running an Assault ck.0 with 5 Complex DMG Mods. But there is nothing that survives 3 Shots. Flying Mouse and Keyboard since:
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3667	Posted - 2014.09.28 04:02:00 - [3] - Quote Jaselyn Cabellos wrote: Bolt Pistol, after I finish about 400 kills with the Kaalakiota I will be going for the Militia. Although I do suppose it is kind of unfair to be running an Assault ck.0 with 5 Complex DMG Mods. But there is nothing that survives 3 Shots. Anything is fair in love and war. Sick them heavies! Good luck!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5180	Posted - 2014.09.28 05:29:00 - [4] - Quote I'll be going for ion and flaylock maybe magsec and scram but most likely not EVE 21 Day Trial
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 678	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:30:00 - [5] - Quote If I had time to no life it I would be going for BP, since I have **** to do I'll probably be going for the less used weapons. Maybe magsec or something.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6079	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:38:00 - [6] - Quote Hopefully my buddy X7 lion is going for knives. "Never say never, and only answer the questions you wish you were asked".
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 633	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:47:00 - [7] - Quote Flaylock. I didnt suffer for a year after the nerfbat hit it to not try win. Only Dust player with all Proto Weapons Prof 1. 19/19. Pilot, Slayer, Logibro, Heavy, Scout, Tanker, AV'er. Everything.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3669	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:23:00 - [8] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Hopefully my buddy X7 lion is going for knives. Best of luck to him!
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 212	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:27:00 - [9] - Quote ScP. I may not be a L33t slayer, but I'm gonna try. I can wait an entire hour in about 10 minutes. Impressive, i know.
Jaselyn Cabellos G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 106	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:50:00 - [10] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: ScP. I may not be a L33t slayer, but I'm gonna try. Good luck, I believe saxonmish is going for ScP too. Flying Mouse and Keyboard since:

maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 82	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:57:00 - [11] - Quote I can see it now "mal's 420 shiv".
Demon Buddah Pure Evil. 236	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:03:00 - [12] - Quote Goin for the knives of course :3
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17903	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:09:00 - [13] - Quote I suspect many forumites will suggest they're trying something but then fail miserably at it. vOv The forums have ruined me.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3669	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:22:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I suspect many forumites will suggest they're trying something but then fail miserably at it. vOv People like Viktor are the exception, though. Might be right. I've be doing well with Militia Ion Pistols recently, though
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3669	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:23:00 - [15] - Quote Jaselyn Cabellos wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: ScP. I may not be a L33t slayer, but I'm gonna try. Good luck, I believe saxonmish is going for ScP too. At least he won't be able to use the Wolfman's lol
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3669	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:24:00 - [16] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I'll be going for ion and flaylock maybe magsec and scram but most likely not May the best gunslinger win!
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1566	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:41:00 - [17] - Quote Nova Knives are the only weapon in the game I haven't used, so I guess I'll try for those if they put the militia version in (have they yet? IDK.). And bolt pistol, I think I'll run a BP & NK combo. I'll name the NK, Dundee's Nova Knives so the art department better get to working on some bowie knives. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Pure Evil. 1972	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:52:00 - [18] - Quote NK & SMG. Regular SMG. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Slowly embracing my inner ninja. Im a decent ghost. And a decent menace. Mk.0, Gk.0, & 'Sever' Scout
Henrietta Unknown CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 315	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:02:00 - [19] - Quote Magsec. It's a mini ARR. And with reduced kick, I've been mopping up heavies and scouts with it lately. I think I've been waiting for this weapon version for a long time. Henrietta Reborn
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9576	Posted - 2014.09.28 18:51:00 - [20] - Quote A certain someone is suppose to be on that Nova Knives list. <-----/hint On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5185	Posted - 2014.09.28 19:02:00 - [21] - Quote I have all sidearms except nova knives at proto for months now even before the buff so i would like to go for a few but with school, work and family/friends i'd be happy to be able to get two full days in during this event. but anyways good luck to all im not as motivated this time around because i already got the chance to name a weapon. EVE 21 Day Trial
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3675	Posted - 2014.09.28 19:35:00 - [22] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: A certain someone is suppose to be on that Nova Knives list. <-----/hint Will Smith?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9576	Posted - 2014.09.28 19:39:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: A certain someone is suppose to be on that Nova Knives list. <-----/hint Will Smith? Yes. Will Smith. And don't forget Tommy Lee Jones. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 271	Posted - 2014.09.28 20:44:00 - [24] - Quote Flaylock will be mine! There can only be one Noob Tube champion and it's me! <------------------That handsome merc Chief-Shotty 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3676	Posted - 2014.09.28 21:00:00 - [25] - Quote Chief-Shotty wrote: Flaylock will be mine! There can only be one Noob Tube champion and it's me! <------------------That handsome merc Chief-Shotty Haha, good luck o7
punksnowmash The Hundred Acre Hood 24	Posted - 2014.09.28 21:02:00 - [26] - Quote Smg and magsec
Echo 1991 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 464	Posted - 2014.09.28 22:31:00 - [27] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I'll be going for ion and flaylock maybe magsec and scram but most likely not Let me get the ion pistol!!! Go for the flaylock
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1009	Posted - 2014.09.28 22:37:00 - [28] - Quote im not sure what weapon to use Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3680	Posted - 2014.09.28 23:13:00 - [29] - Quote Zindorak wrote: im not sure what weapon to use SMG?
Aria Gomes The dyst0pian Corporation 535	Posted - 2014.09.28 23:34:00 - [30] - Quote Add me to the bolt and nova knives challenge. When is the contest? I Bet I have work :( Also Flaylock :P

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9587	Posted - 2014.09.28 23:40:00 - [31] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Add me to the bolt and nova knives challenge. When is the contest? I Bet I have work :( Also Flaylock :P October 3 - 20th. You have plenty of time. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1009	Posted - 2014.09.28 23:48:00 - [32] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Zindorak wrote: im not sure what weapon to use SMG? Im thinking Magsec or SMG. Maybe ScP Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Aria Gomes The dyst0pian Corporation 535	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:05:00 - [33] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: Add me to the bolt and nova knives challenge. When is the contest? I Bet I have work :( Also Flaylock :P October 3 - 20th. You have plenty of time. Oh sweet. Thanks.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3680	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:38:00 - [34] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Joel II X wrote: Zindorak wrote: im not sure what weapon to use SMG? Im thinking Magsec or SMG. Maybe ScP Once you make up your mind, I'll add ya to the list Aria Gomes wrote: Add me to the bolt and nova knives challenge. When is the contest? I Bet I have work :( Also Flaylock :P Added! Good luck, Aria o7
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3680	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:39:00 - [35] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: Add me to the bolt and nova knives challenge. When is the contest? I Bet I have work :( Also Flaylock :P October 3 - 20th. You have plenty of time. Oh sweet. Thanks. Whats even better is that they only count the highest of kills in a single day!
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3342	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:43:00 - [36] - Quote I think Jigoku said he might try for the flaylock. Tanker/Logi/Assault
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1637	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:45:00 - [37] - Quote I've got a day planned where I can run downtime to downtime straight for the knives!!!! Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3681	Posted - 2014.09.29 01:06:00 - [38] - Quote So many going for knives Perhaps I should as well
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3547	Posted - 2014.09.29 01:07:00 - [39] - Quote I intially, I wanted to do NKs and ScPs. However, I have since changed my mind and added IPs to that list.
BlazeXYZ G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 258	Posted - 2014.09.29 01:07:00 - [40] - Quote Flaylock pistol <----------------this guy The Blazing Intellect Machine

Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3685	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:16:00 - [41] - Quote Updated.
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. 986	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:27:00 - [42] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard? lol I ******* that reference I'm more of an Anvil man myself though :P Then he layed out his hand and all the threads of the forums were locked. - CCP RatiShakalaka describing CCP Lockingbro
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3687	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:22:00 - [43] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Cheydinhal Guard? lol I ******* that reference I'm more of an Anvil man myself though :P Who knew those guards would make good immortal soldiers?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5400	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:13:00 - [44] - Quote How are people doing the with flaylock so far EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs EVE 2nd decade CE items
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 376	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:21:00 - [45] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: How are people doing the with flaylock so far Haven't seen any more than one. And that one must have been stacking damage mods. When perched on his platform, his shots are like mass driver cases. Close to scrub. Give the Magsex some love.
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:27:00 - [46] - Quote Just thought I'd chip in that I'm going for the Magsec. Been running it near-religiously since Saturday when I decided to go ahead and try for it. This has so far been a lesson not in humility, but in masochism. I think I'll be happy when the event is over no matter the outcome. Or maybe not, since I feel a burning need to increase my ability with scrambler pistols. More specifically, the burst scrambler pistol.
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 376	Posted - 2014.10.14 06:23:00 - [47] - Quote Victor Moody Stahl wrote: Just thought I'd chip in that I'm going for the Magsec. Been running it near-religiously since Saturday when I decided to go ahead and try for it. This has so far been a lesson not in humility, but in masochism. I think I'll be happy when the event is over no matter the outcome. If the Magsec was so painful, why not write up a thread on how it needs to be ahem adjusted? Give the Magsex some love.
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2014.10.14 23:17:00 - [48] - Quote Well, part of it is that I'm not sure of the adjustment that it needs. The other part is that I also use KB/M, so: -KB/M in DUST is and has been terrible since Uprising 1.0 (Chrome was amazing for KB/M) -KB/M also has no aim assist So it could just be that the lack of AA on KB/M, and the generally cringeworthy post-Uprising KB/M controls, could be at fault. It could also be that I'm running dual Magsecs, and so I don't have an alternative weapon to fall back upon... but dual Magsecs is the best way I can think of to maximize Magsec kills, so it's a bit of a wash either way on that count.
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 379	Posted - 2014.10.14 23:27:00 - [49] - Quote I have to admit, the event does not reflect well on the Magsec's average killing ability. A tryhard who is probably also a RR enthusiast, pumping out some 80 kills an hour, assuming he's playing 23 hours straight, is not a representation of the typical player who just "likes" to run a Magsec. Not to be bitter about him, but his count, helped by boosting or not, isn't going to highlight the inherent problems of the Magsec. I might as well say it is the poorest-performing weapon aside from the Flaylock. Give the Magsex some love.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1680	Posted - 2014.10.15 00:00:00 - [50] - Quote Around 250 kills with the no atm, still have till downtime. Starting to feel physically sick. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype

Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 80	Posted - 2014.10.15 00:06:00 - [51] - Quote WOOT WOOT MAGSEC WOOT WOOT Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 218	Posted - 2014.10.15 00:13:00 - [52] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: How are people doing the with flaylock so far Its fine overal its quite awesome to use my beloved Falyloooock Yaaaaaaargh "Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Pirmatar Yaaaaaargh."
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2014.10.15 00:36:00 - [53] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: I have to admit, the event does not reflect well on the Magsec's average killing ability. A tryhard who is probably also a RR enthusiast, pumping out some 80 kills an hour, assuming he's playing 23 hours straight, is not a representation of the typical player who just "likes" to run a Magsec. Not to be bitter about him, but his count, helped by boosting or not, isn't going to highlight the inherent problems of the Magsec. I might as well say it is the poorest-performing weapon aside from the Flaylock. Well, CCP Frame did repost a revised listing in this thread about the event numbers. The revised listing is a little more than halfway down the first page, though I'll list the numbers here just for comparison: #1 MLT Bolt, 999 kills #2 MLT Ion, 877 kills #3 MLT Scrambler, 617 kills #4 MLT Knives, 515 kills #5 MLT Flaylock, 361 kills #6 MLT SMG, 277 kills And a drumroll for the dead last place weapon: #7, the MLT Magsec, at a whopping 195 kills. The bolt has an ~14% increase in killcount compared to the Ion, which is the next lowest The difference between the SMG and the Magsec is 42%! (I use the SMG for comparison since it's the closest in killcount to the Magsec, much the same way the bolt and ion are very close.) So it's actually a lot less than the original numbers indicate, and IMO is somewhat more reflective of what I'm seeing in the matches I'm playing (IE, when MLT sidearms show up it's mostly bolt and ion pistols). Of course, the updated numbers actually do reflect quite poorly on the Magsec... but whether or not the event is providing extreme bias against the Magsec I couldn't say.
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 379	Posted - 2014.10.15 01:34:00 - [54] - Quote Victor Moody Stahl wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: I have to admit, the event does not reflect well on the Magsec's average killing ability. A tryhard who is probably also a RR enthusiast, pumping out some 80 kills an hour, assuming he's playing 23 hours straight, is not a representation of the typical player who just "likes" to run a Magsec. Not to be bitter about him, but his count, helped by boosting or not, isn't going to highlight the inherent problems of the Magsec. I might as well say it is the poorest-performing weapon aside from the Flaylock. Well, CCP Frame did repost a revised listing in this thread about the event numbers. The revised listing is a little more than halfway down the first page, though I'll list the numbers here just for comparison: #1 MLT Bolt, 999 kills #2 MLT Ion, 877 kills #3 MLT Scrambler, 617 kills #4 MLT Knives, 515 kills #5 MLT Flaylock, 361 kills #6 MLT SMG, 277 kills And a drumroll for the dead last place weapon: #7, the MLT Magsec, at a whopping 195 kills. The bolt has an ~14% increase in killcount compared to the Ion, which is the next lowest. The difference between the SMG and the Magsec is 42%! (I use the SMG for comparison since it's the closest in killcount to the Magsec, much the same way the bolt and ion are very close.) So it's actually a lot less than the original numbers indicate, and IMO is somewhat more reflective of what I'm seeing in the matches I'm playing (IE, when MLT sidearms show up it's mostly bolt and ion pistols). Of course, the updated numbers actually do reflect quite poorly on the Magsec... but whether or not the event is providing extreme bias against the Magsec I couldn't say. Okie, I saw the revision! Give the Magsex some love.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2579	Posted - 2014.10.15 01:47:00 - [55] - Quote Ill be stomping you all with Ishukone SMG's and NK's while you're all running around like little scrub lets with MLT sidearms "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3813	Posted - 2014.10.15 02:08:00 - [56] - Quote Updated.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5428	Posted - 2014.10.16 06:24:00 - [57] - Quote bump only like 4 days left anyone else going for any weapons, im making my second and last attempt this friday not sure what those. EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs EVE 2nd decade CE items
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 384	Posted - 2014.10.16 06:40:00 - [58] - Quote I've decided that the event's been too tedious. It's a tryhard/veteran's game. I'd rather be masochistic and run an uncloaked Min scout. Give the Magsex some love.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5429	Posted - 2014.10.16 06:43:00 - [59] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: I've decided that the event's been too tedious. It's a tryhard/veteran's game. I'd rather be masochistic and run an uncloaked Min scout. It is a masochistic event, has really nothing to do with skill. 10% Skill 90% Endurance EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs EVE 2nd decade CE items
Boot Booter Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 941	Posted - 2014.10.16 08:30:00 - [60] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: I've decided that the event's been too tedious. It's a tryhard/veteran's game. I'd rather be masochistic and run an uncloaked Min scout. It is a masochistic event, has really nothing to do with skill. 10% Skill 90% Endurance Very very true. What happened to the repair tool glow? Why won't CCP answer? Conspiracy?



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