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Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4505	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:07:00 - [1] - Quote Man, I am probably in the minority here..but I would prefer if they nerfed the standard hmg damage a bit. And I'd like to see the freedom get much tighter dispersion so it's actually getting a lot more of it's dps out at it's intended ranges. As it currently stands only a bad heavy overheats the HMG. Kin Kats on heavies are mitigating it's purpose as a slow tanky suit. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4517	Posted - 2014.11.14 19:07:00 - [2] - Quote When you say stack you mean put all low slots as plates? You only need 2 kin kats to speed tank. Armor suit come with more than 2 lows...and shield primary tanks have high slots... Where is the data that a non plate stacked heavy get's 1 shot by NK's? Re's actually I find less dangerous to me on my speed tank because i can sprint out of the blast radius easily as opposed to my plate stacked heavy. 2 shot by shotguns? Data please?? Sure yes there are deterrents to speed tanking...it's ideally used solo as blob warfare (when coupled with a dash of awareness) masks many heavy weaknesses as well (try breaching domination on the gal research lab with anything BUT heavies once a blob of them and their logi's have setup shop). Although...They would recover much faster than a plate stacked sent...dunno how that makes any sense to you. A logi is going to recover the lower armor amount obviously quicker than the extra 400-500 armor a plate stacked heavy is going to have. I would contest that a brick tank will die less than a speed tank if both are solo. I would contest that a scout is going to outperform an assault suit if both are sprinting at the same speed and used remaining slots to tank as the increased tank on the assault wills outperform the lower hitbox on the scout in the described circumstances. This understanding spawned the shotty twins and others who understood this. Assault with 850 ehp > Scout with 600 ehp sprinting at the same speed despite lower hitbox This assumes no damps or cloaks. I'm just saying that speed tanking heavies mitigates it's draw back of being a slow tanky suit. I can run around with 1200 ehp and sprint as fast as an assault suit with my higher dps weapon and **** people. Should it be so effective? I don't know. I honestly don't. As for the damage nerf...just go look at the numbers Ratatti posted about the weapons and suit being used most in PC...heavies are better at assaulting points than anything else...you need only use scouts as logis and spam heavies to win. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4518	Posted - 2014.11.14 19:46:00 - [3] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Huh. If this is going to be a thing just get sentinels out of CQC zatara. This BS only tells me there is going to be no good compromise. Because there is only one thing the hmg sentinel is good for. One. Keep the nerfs coming. Break the class. Let's see just how bad it gets this time. Just take heavies out of CQC and ne done with it. Little nerfs my friend. Increase the time before the spool up give you optimal damage, increase the heat buildup incrementally. I really feel that until the DPS is not SO much better in CQC vs everything else...and it's only counter is shotgun/re scouts...long range with no cover, and similar levels of heavy spam...heavies will continue to be the 2nd most broken class in dust, and the number one most spammed class in PC. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4530	Posted - 2014.11.15 06:16:00 - [4] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Short range, extreme dispersion and overheats after 200 bullets. It is currently the crappiest machine gun ever designed. You obviously never tried Super Good Advice in Destiny. O_O B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4530	Posted - 2014.11.15 06:22:00 - [5] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Just wanting to be clear. Are you stating you want to have BOTH of these, or is this an either/or scenario. I would be O.K. with either one on it's own if it is minor. However, stating you have to wait longer to do max damage AND while your waiting it is building up even faster, we are talking like a 1/2 second to 1 second window to do "optimum max damage" without overheating. And while building up to that, the scout has closed the distance and either blapped me twice with a shotgun or gutted me with his Nova Knives. I was suggesting either or. While I personally would be more happy if the HMG damage was brought down closer the the highest DPS CQC rifle variant...it's dispersion tightened (so it does more dps at longer ranges), and it's overheat mechanic toned way down if not removed... I know people are going to disagree with me. And I don't represent myself. I can try to advocate (best done on comms where I can actually elaborate without getting carpel tunnel) why i think a certain way and strive to understand why people feel differently (because I like to practice what I preach about ACTUALLY being open to ideas other than one's own ). B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4532	Posted - 2014.11.15 08:13:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: sincere questions among a scathing tirade I really have no interest in attempting to read that. Feel free to contact me if you wish to speak in a professional manner on skype or email. I'm not your doormat. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4621	Posted - 2014.11.17 19:40:00 - [7] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Neither are you representing an interest in actually fixing the problem. Instead you are treating the problems and my input as inconsequential, irrelevant and ignorant along the slant of me trying to protect an easy mode. I despise the heavy meta and want it to burn. But your assertions do not solve the problem. They just change the problem. Glad we were able to talk it out on skype and that we now have THIS. o/ Breakin B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought

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