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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:24:00 -
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Test 1 TTK Sentinel Dropsuits. Test parameters are as follows:
Incubus with Blaster piloted by ResistanceGTA Range: 30m, stationary target, testing how effective the Incubus with Blasters is on dropsuits raw data.
Dropsuits are fitted per normal combat fittings. not idealized "Bricktank." Sentinel target is stationary
Target 1: Sentinel Ck.0 all armor 5 all shields 5 Calsent 5 Ishukone Assault Forge Gun Toxin SMG Locus Grenade Complex Shield Regulator Complex Shield Extender x3 Complex Shield Energizer
835 shields 487 Armor
Test 1: Incubus Blaster overheated after tearing down the shields of the CalSent to 50% Test 2: Blaster cut down full shields, removed 72 armor, overheated. Approx. 4 seconds. Test 3: Dropship on the ground, aiming point blank. 23 rounds, Dropsuit shields stripped, reduced from 415 armor to 199 armor in under 2 seconds.
Target 2: Sentinel Ak.0 all armor 5 all shields 5 Amsent 5 Ishukone Assault Forge Gun Toxin SMG 2 Complex Plates 2 complex Reps 2 ADV precision Mods
450 Shields 1047 Armor
Test 1: 84 rounds, 50% armor, approx: 2.5 seconds Test 2: overheated at 848 remaining armor, 9 second total fire run due to overheat Test 3: 302 Armor remaining, no overheat, approx 4 sec.
Target 3: Minmatar M/1 (I don't have any Mk.0 in inventory) all armor 5 all shields 5 Minsent 5 Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Energizer Std Cardiac Regulator Complex Rep Ishukone Assault Forge Gun Flaylock Pistol
554 Shields 575 Armor
Test 1: Blaster overheated at 115 shields Test 2: 64 rounds, reduced Sentinel to 336 armor, approx. 3 sec. Test 3: 62 rounds, reduced to 73 Armor, approx. 4 sec.
Target 4: Gallente Sentinel all armor 5 all shields 5 Galsent 5 ADV Precision Mod x2 Complex Plate x2 Complex Rep Ishukone Assault Forge Gun Bolt Pistol Militia Locus Grenade
Shields: 487 Armor: 953
Test 1: overheat, 85 rounds at 700 armor Test 2: 45 rounds, less than 4 seconds, 30 HP remaining, multiple headshots registered. Test 3: 20 rounds, didn't break shields, match terminated mid-run
Conclusion: Blaster is efficient at cutting through the dropsuits when it's on target, but performance is overall spotty, inefficient and inconsistent. Cannot determine if RoF nerf has played a part in this or if the weapon itself is particularly screwy.
Threat assessment Vs. Sentinel: Negligible. Moving target and more realistic ranges would have completely changed the already inconsistent damage output. Incubus does not fare well against serious opponent in Sentinel Proto with IAFG. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:26:00 -
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Test day 2 will be the Python with Small Missile Launcher Vs. Stationary Sentinel Targets. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:31:00 -
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abdullah muzaffar wrote:No dmg mods? and wtf is a prec mod doing on a sentinel?
winning. I run positive KD on all of my scanner fits because I can see punks in medium suits coming to shoot me.
You cannot hide from the fat man.
And damage mods are absolutely worthless. Shots to kill vehicles does not change, just how much their health bars visibly move. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:41:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Stop forcing a square peg into a round hole.
The ADS nose turret is not the place for a blaster. They just aren't compatible for a number of reasons that can't be fixed by adjusting its stats.
Test blasters on LAVs. I've had a bunch of success running solo but I've never had a dedicated gunner test it.
This post is about as useful as a football bat. If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, feel free to bugger off.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:50:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Stop forcing a square peg into a round hole.
The ADS nose turret is not the place for a blaster. They just aren't compatible for a number of reasons that can't be fixed by adjusting its stats.
Test blasters on LAVs. I've had a bunch of success running solo but I've never had a dedicated gunner test it. This post is about as useful as a football bat. If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, feel free to bugger off. Actually, Vulpses has a point. The front turret on a blaster is about as useful as a picture of a fat girl with a bikini to a guy who isn't a chubby chaser. It is much better on the side turret though, but still screwy in my opinion. Python with Missiles is tomorrow. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:51:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Stop forcing a square peg into a round hole.
The ADS nose turret is not the place for a blaster. They just aren't compatible for a number of reasons that can't be fixed by adjusting its stats.
Test blasters on LAVs. I've had a bunch of success running solo but I've never had a dedicated gunner test it. This post is about as useful as a football bat. If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, feel free to bugger off. Actually, Vulpses has a point. The front turret on a blaster is about as useful as a picture of a fat girl with a bikini to a guy who isn't a chubby chaser. It is much better on the side turret though, but still screwy in my opinion. Python with Missiles is tomorrow. I may just be able to make it to that one. Blaster needs to be looked at is the point of this. The performance is inconsistent enough that determining if the RoF nerf makes it nonviable is impossible. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 22:13:00 -
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Oh I've thought about all of this. But if I'm going to test this crap I'm going to test it ALL so I can help provide full feedback for Rattati to use determining if the nerfs were overdone, not cherry pick what is convenient to fit my agenda. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.25 22:53:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Oh I've thought about all of this. But if I'm going to test this crap I'm going to test it ALL so I can help provide full feedback for Rattati to use determining if the nerfs were overdone, not cherry pick what is convenient to fit my agenda. ??? Agenda? I'm just giving you the reality of the situation between ADSs and blasters. Judging the blaster based on how it performs on an ADS is like judging a fish based on how well it can climb a tree. They just don't jive with each other. The balancing should be done based on the weapon's intended role and usage. I'd suggest trying the tests again, but this time as a side turret. You have completely missed the point. I'm going to bed. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:33:00 -
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T-minus 6-8 hours before we begin testing python small missiles. If we have time we will test Incubus with rails versus my worthless, unskilled HAVs to see how long they take to kill.
Our final+¬ will be full contact combat between the calsent and both classes of ADS and full contact between my minmatar commando with LOLworthy swarm skills and the ADS.
For those interested in the results please keep tuned In. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:08:00 -
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Bump to go with the second thread |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.29 14:46:00 -
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No your original suggestion was the better one. Bonusing the incubus so it can use the weapon in strafe is better than a flat buff to the gun.
When the blaster turrets are on a small turret they tend to be ok. Not overwhelming. But on the ADS nose they are utter crap. Thats more a problem of the delivery platform than the weapon itself.
To be used on an ADS you have to be able to pull a steady and smooth hover, which makes you easy meat for AV. It has little strafe value. |
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