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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:21:00 -
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Alright, let me start off saying that the changes made for the Ion pistol were pretty good. Increased RoF, charge time, reduced seize time and dispersion are great. Saying that, I still think more tweaks are needed. It's just not there, it can't hold up against the other pistols.
So what can we do? Well I think it needs increased damage, say 65 to 70? This would bring the theoretical dps up to 487-525 It sounds like a lot, but it's a very, very short ranged weapon. I think increasing the charge multiplier would help, but I don't know the multiplier so I can't do any theory crafting. Thoughts?
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3125
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Posted - 2014.09.25 20:48:00 -
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IIRC there is no multiplier just a standard 350 damage charged. I would like the seize time gone and follow up from there.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:58:00 -
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Well that's definitely a number worth tweaking. How does 450 sound?
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.09.25 22:46:00 -
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I feel like the weapon itself is great but the ridiculous dispersion makes it inferior to the other sidearms. Maybe this is fixed by sharpshooter?
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3130
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Posted - 2014.09.26 00:11:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:I feel like the weapon itself is great but the ridiculous dispersion makes it inferior to the other sidearms. Maybe this is fixed by sharpshooter?
I have sharpshooter 5 and it dosn't really help. Its an OK gun but any other is better, when it comes to side arms shield ones aren't very effective specially if it doesnt have high ALPHA, the Ion Pistol relies on high DPS which makes it weak as a finisher.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
8017
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Posted - 2014.09.26 01:49:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:I feel like the weapon itself is great but the ridiculous dispersion makes it inferior to the other sidearms. Maybe this is fixed by sharpshooter? I have sharpshooter 5 and it dosn't really help, well it helps but it doesn't make or break it. Its an OK gun but any other is better, when it comes to side arms shield ones aren't very effective specially if it doesnt have high ALPHA, the Ion Pistol relies on high DPS rather than alpha which makes it weak as a finisher since finishing people requires pounding through armor. I think it needs a slight DPS buff, a change to the charge multiplier and no seize time to it functions like a handheld scrambler rifle. At that point breaching armor will not be a problem but will also be held back by its pathetic low range.
Dispersion was made much better (or less) in Delta, you should be feeling the difference?
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.09.26 01:54:00 -
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Change the fitting skill. It makes no sense to have it reduce CPU now. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.26 02:00:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Change the fitting skill. It makes no sense to have it reduce CPU now. Yes, Have the optimization to 5 please.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
456
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Posted - 2014.09.26 02:14:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Change the fitting skill. It makes no sense to have it reduce CPU now. Yes, Have the optimization to 5 please. Gal assault needs more PG as well I think. |
hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.09.26 02:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:I feel like the weapon itself is great but the ridiculous dispersion makes it inferior to the other sidearms. Maybe this is fixed by sharpshooter? I have sharpshooter 5 and it dosn't really help, well it helps but it doesn't make or break it. Its an OK gun but any other is better, when it comes to side arms shield ones aren't very effective specially if it doesnt have high ALPHA, the Ion Pistol relies on high DPS rather than alpha which makes it weak as a finisher since finishing people requires pounding through armor. I think it needs a slight DPS buff, a change to the charge multiplier and no seize time to it functions like a handheld scrambler rifle. At that point breaching armor will not be a problem but will also be held back by its pathetic low range. Dispersion was made much better (or less) in Delta, you should be feeling the difference? does the tier of the weapon effect the dispersion? I was using a militia ion pistol today and the dispersion was just like before.I could be completely on target but only a fraction of my hits would land.
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You Are Inferior
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.26 02:26:00 -
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It is the weapon I use most of the time I think the dmg is fine it just need a larger clip. High rate of fire but bad acc so we need more shots also remember we don't have any variants. Scout ion/ion Assault AR/ion if you guys give it good deeps I won't feel like super man on ion pistol kills.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1850
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Posted - 2014.09.26 04:11:00 -
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I've been doing well with it actually though I really need more time with it to make a firm call one way or another. I suspect it could still use a small damage buff but only in the realm of 5% and only because of its stupidly short range. As I said in when the patch notes were released, I really think the pistol's range vs damage curve needs to be more dramatic.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.26 07:13:00 -
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Not good enough, boosting to 55 damage at STD
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.09.26 07:44:00 -
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Pretty pleased with the ion pistol changes actually. The dispersion reduction in gal assaults really helps it's accuracy too.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1855
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:05:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Not good enough, boosting to 55 damage at STD
Rattati, you (and your team's?) responsiveness awes me.
I have been doing decently with the weapon all night but a 5 point damage buff will make it much more usable. We'll see how it pans out once that change hits (tomorrow perhaps).
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1855
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:06:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Pretty pleased with the ion pistol changes actually. The dispersion reduction in gal assaults really helps it's accuracy too.
Agreed about the Gal assault. BTW did the Gal assault bonus get a ninja boost. It seems strangely more useful now. Perhaps as a result of all the buffing to plasma hybrid weapons?
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501st Headstrong
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
593
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:32:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Pretty pleased with the ion pistol changes actually. The dispersion reduction in gal assaults really helps it's accuracy too. Agreed about the Gal assault. BTW did the Gal assault bonus get a ninja boost. It seems strangely more useful now. Perhaps as a result of all the buffing to plasma hybrid weapons?
I think that's what you're feeling yeah. Plasma weapons have a nice punch to them now
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:10:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:I feel like the weapon itself is great but the ridiculous dispersion makes it inferior to the other sidearms. Maybe this is fixed by sharpshooter? I have sharpshooter 5 and it dosn't really help, well it helps but it doesn't make or break it. Its an OK gun but any other is better, when it comes to side arms shield ones aren't very effective specially if it doesnt have high ALPHA, the Ion Pistol relies on high DPS rather than alpha which makes it weak as a finisher since finishing people requires pounding through armor. I think it needs a slight DPS buff, a change to the charge multiplier and no seize time to it functions like a handheld scrambler rifle. At that point breaching armor will not be a problem but will also be held back by its pathetic low range. Dispersion was made much better (or less) in Delta, you should be feeling the difference?
I mean when compared with an ion pistol with sharpshooter 5 and without, I can definitely feel the buff that you guys did :)
Also I would like to clarify that I wrote no seize time what I actually meant was no instant seize
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3815
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:22:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Not good enough, boosting to 55 damage at STD Well that's good to hear. Thanks, I'll give more feedback when it's deployed and I've tested it. (You guys are like ninjas though, I never know when anything's deployed anymore )
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Fristname Family name
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
85
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:29:00 -
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I reckon make 2 charge shots possible before overheat and make the charenshot damage 400 and at each 1/5 or so of he charge up bar it deals like 50 ( random number )damage more than original shot until it reachs full charge wich would be x damage ( does it already work like that? ) also the ion rifle could be a heavy weapon :) perfect idea of a ion fashion range who ever sugested the ion light guns. Maybe it could be more ranged or just a bolt rifle for heavys ( even better could be a semi auto big sniper/assualt rifle kinda weapon which im imagining to be hardcore lookin and me just melting reds with my trigger finger from 40m away ) well one more thing can we get a suit painter or gun painter, rainbow shooting plc along with a bunch of midnight maps for october and JUMPING HEIGHT AND MOVEMENT SPEED modules thats right. Lol i also do a lil ramble XD
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