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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3699
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:08:00 -
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As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
211
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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:43:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter. The lr is only effective on one suit
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3700
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:10:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter. The lr is only effective on one suit Another Amarr weapon =ƒÿ¦ You'd think they'd be OP considering they're only effective on one suit. Thought I'd like to see the ASCR 10/-10 or maybe look at the cbr cuz that weapon is still extremely good whereas the ASCR has never been good. It's been decent but never good.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
212
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter. The lr is only effective on one suit Another Amarr weapon =ƒÿ¦ You'd think they'd be OP considering they're only effective on one suit. Thought I'd like to see the ASCR 10/-10 or maybe look at the cbr cuz that weapon is still extremely good whereas the ASCR has never been good. It's been decent but never good. i can agree with altering the damage profile for the ascr alone never the lr it would make me to op..
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3700
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:27:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter. The lr is only effective on one suit Another Amarr weapon =ƒÿ¦ You'd think they'd be OP considering they're only effective on one suit. Thought I'd like to see the ASCR 10/-10 or maybe look at the cbr cuz that weapon is still extremely good whereas the ASCR has never been good. It's been decent but never good. i can agree with altering the damage profile for the ascr alone never the lr it would make me to op.. That's what I was thinking, same with the regular Scr it'd probably be OP as well.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13378
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Posted - 2014.09.25 23:29:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter. The lr is only effective on one suit
Nah it works on the Amarr Commando very well.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3703
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:54:00 -
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Bump. Since I feel the ASCR is something that needs to be effective someday.
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
219
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:31:00 -
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change it back to its correct rof and old heat build up so it does not overheat on an ammar assault, otherwise its just a waste of space
lets just burn this motherfucker down
pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzzzzz goes my laser
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1106
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:54:00 -
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I am of the opinion that ALL amarr suits should get the cooldown bonus of the amarr assault as an inate bonus. Otherwise yes, every amarr weapon is either too good on the amarr assault, or complete crap without it.
If all gallente suit can have inate armor rep due to reason of racial flavor, why not make the amarr suits work with their own weapons for even more flavor.
It would make balancing the amarrian overheating weapons MUCH easier. Also it would reflect eve quite nicely.
EDIT: Here let me expand on that.
The overheat function of the scrambler and to a lesser extent, the laser operate as pretty much clips. Baseline you have a ` 15 shot clip in the scrambler and a 60 round clip on the laser. The amarr assault bonus therefor is similar to the minmatar assault bonus (clip bonus). It just extends the damage before reload (or the in the amarr case cooldown).
Right now the scrambler and the laser have the lowest damage per clip/cooldown of ALL main weapons and less than quite a few sidearms. The only time when the scrambler has a decent amount of damage per clip/overheat is WITH the amarr assault bonus.
Fixing swarms
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1818
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:29:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:As someone whose had it since it was released I decided to try it again. The accuracy is great now but if you fix the ROF it'll go back to being garbage. Increase the DMG instead and also fix the overheat. I have Amarr lvl 5 and can overheat it in one clip.. How many weapons in this game are only effective on one suit? Just the ASCR? Return the overheat to the way it was before you "fixed" it. Do those 2 things and this weapon might actually be viable. Maybe. If you do decide to change the RoF back then keep the accuracy the way it is now and still fix the overheat. Just my thoughts on the matter. The lr is only effective on one suit Another Amarr weapon =ƒÿ¦ You'd think they'd be OP considering they're only effective on one suit. Thought I'd like to see the ASCR 10/-10 or maybe look at the cbr cuz that weapon is still extremely good whereas the ASCR has never been good. It's been decent but never good. Stacking armor is the current meta. Is it any surprise the rifle with the worst armor damage profile is the least competitive?
We need to buff shield suits some (not a lot, but some) to make them viable in PC where armor stacking is the only way. Once shields become competitive, the ASCR will find its niche. Although I agree with you about the overheat.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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GVGMODE
190
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:36:00 -
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You cannot fire the entire clip without overheating; given Amarr Assault Dropsuit (lvl 5) and Scrambler Rifle(lvl 5). Let's not forget that raw damage is terrible if we consider the current rate of fire.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4110
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:55:00 -
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If you ask me, up until very recently, the ASCR was quite effective and very much underrated. Only the fitting costs compared to the CR kept me from using it more often.
Now, though? It's utter crap. On my assault suit it might be OK I guess , but if I'm going to use that suit I'm going LR anyway. On my logi suit, it's totally ineffective as it overheats barely halfway through the clip! That might be enough to kill a caldari assault or a lightly armored scout, but against any other suit it overheats first.
100% useless. Calling it the worst rifle is an understatement: Flaylock-level nerf... to a weapon that wasn't even OP in the first place! It makes no sense.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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