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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3457	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:44:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PSA - Breach Scrambler is getting fixed and defined as a "known issue" Please, say "No."

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 7959	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:47:00 - [2] - Quote Of course, it's ludicrous, you are kidding right? Somehow I missed it on the range vs dps chart because it didn't have a proto variant. New numbers are in blue on the spreadsheet. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3457	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:53:00 - [3] - Quote walks away and picks up BPs

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 7960	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:00:00 - [4] - Quote Less than OP = garbage "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 294	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:04:00 - [5] - Quote You might want to look at the Bolt Pistols too then... 630 DPS on a fully automatic weapon?
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2133	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:05:00 - [6] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: You might want to look at the Bolt Pistols too then... 630 DPS on a fully automatic weapon? That's not counting the charge time. Also, if you miss you lose over 25% of your projected damage. Dust was real! I was there!
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 294	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:13:00 - [7] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: You might want to look at the Bolt Pistols too then... 630 DPS on a fully automatic weapon? That's not counting the charge time. Also, if you miss you lose over 25% of your projected damage. It is counting the charge time. Fully automatics outside of heavy weapons shouldn't reach 630 DPS without any modifiers.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 7961	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:18:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: You might want to look at the Bolt Pistols too then... 630 DPS on a fully automatic weapon? That's not counting the charge time. Also, if you miss you lose over 25% of your projected damage. It is counting the charge time. Fully automatics outside of heavy weapons shouldn't reach 630 DPS without any modifiers. Can you demonstrate your calculations? "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

CamClarke 0uter.Heaven 132	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:26:00 - [9] - Quote I think he may be going off of what the in-game stats say, which is .25s charge time. Having tested it a bit, it looks like you guys did change it to .40s but someone forgot to update that entry on its stat sheet.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 295	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:29:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: You might want to look at the Bolt Pistols too then... 630 DPS on a fully automatic weapon? That's not counting the charge time. Also, if you miss you lose over 25% of your projected damage. It is counting the charge time. Fully automatics outside of heavy weapons shouldn't reach 630 DPS without any modifiers. Can you demonstrate your calculations? Charge time is 0.4 seconds between shots right? That is 150 Rounds per minute. On the nose. 150 rounds per minute x 252 damage per shot = 37800 Damage per minute 37800 Damage per minute / 60 seconds = 630 Damage per second Alternatively, one could say it does 1008 damage over ~~1.6~~ 2.0 seconds, before it has to reload. ~~630~~ 504 Damage per second. Still insanely high compared to the rest of the sidearms.


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 7963	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:37:00 - [11] - Quote The ROF is 150 = 1/0.4s60 Add in the charge at 0.25s, and then the ROF is 1/0.6560 = 92 The DPS at Proto is then 388, which is the correct dps vs range correlation shown in the chart in the spreadsheet "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 295	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:39:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The ROF is 150 = 1/0.4s60 Add in the charge at 0.25s, and then the ROF is 1/0.6560 = 92 The DPS at Proto is then 388, which is the correct dps vs range correlation shown in the chart in the spreadsheet The Charge AND the RoF are both counted? TIL. So what are you going to do with the BrScP then? I'm going to wander a guess and say you'll drop it to 155-160 Damage.
The Eristic Dust 90210 649	Posted - 2014.09.25 09:46:00 - [13] - Quote Why is the Breach's CPU now 28 at standard? That's ridiculous, frankly, much worse than the already over-the-top Magsec/Ion numbers that were just lowered. There's no reason whatsoever for a standard level sidearm to have comparable CPU to its advanced counterparts or even the Scrambler Rifle, a light weapon! It's both extreme and unnecessary, now nearly twice as CPU-intensive as the Bolt, the default breach pistol (even more so now!) it's meant to "imitate", and very few people ran it in the first place, so surely you weren't hoping to discourage its use? It's been forced off practically all of my fittings now. :^( On a related note, a few of my Min char's fittings (mostly the M-1 Scouts and Sentinels) are semi-boned due to the Flaylock PG addition combined with Min's inherent lack of PG and the inexplicable costs of Kincats, but even then, +2 PG +6 CPU is much more manageable than +2 PG +17 CPU! Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3460	Posted - 2014.09.25 11:20:00 - [14] - Quote Well, it looks like my BrScPs are safe for another day, but how long will that truly last?... When they are finally revised, I will then hang them up for good and slap on my Prof. 3 Kaalakiota BPs..... However, I'm still sad for some reason.


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