DUST Search - Did the ScR get ninja nerfed?

buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:

CommanderBolt wrote:

Izlare Lenix wrote:

Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating.

I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives?

Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon.

Hey I have just been testing out my templar scrambler.

They changed RoF down to 600rpm = this was intended and its fine. You can still absolutely spam shots off trust me. EDIT - I was using Templar assault so I had level 5 Amarr bonus. There might well be an issue with the weapon on other suits, I will try it out.

They decreased hipfire slightly and tbh I didn't notice a massive penalty so that's ok.

The damage of the weapon has been reduced however to 65 (On the Templar Scrambler it was more before) and I could not find any mention of this happening, so I think they have done this in error.

They also accidentally nerfed the RoF of the Assault variant so they need to fix a few things with the scrambler.

its been 65 for a little while, i think maybe a previous hotfix or an update

"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro"

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Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 989	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:09:00 - [1] - Quote Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating. I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives? Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17832	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:12:00 - [2] - Quote Only the RoF nerf has been stated. There might have been the unintentional side effect of reducing the number of shots fireable before overheat, though, because IIRC heat buildup is based on per second usage rather than per shot. The forums have ruined me.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1759	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:14:00 - [3] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating. I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives? Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon. Hey I have just been testing out my templar scrambler. They changed RoF down to 600rpm = this was intended and its fine. You can still absolutely spam shots off trust me. EDIT - I was using Templar assault so I had level 5 Amarr bonus. There might well be an issue with the weapon on other suits, I will try it out. They decreased hipfire slightly and tbh I didn't notice a massive penalty so that's ok. The damage of the weapon has been reduced however to 65 (On the Templar Scrambler it was more before) and I could not find any mention of this happening, so I think they have done this in error. They also accidentally nerfed the RoF of the Assault variant so they need to fix a few things with the scrambler. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Atiim 12482	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Only the RoF nerf has been stated. There might have been the unintentional side effect of reducing the number of shots fireable before overheat, though, because IIRC heat buildup is based on per second usage rather than per shot. Yes, the heat sink on SCRs are per second values as opposed to per shot. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 990	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:20:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Only the RoF nerf has been stated. There might have been the unintentional side effect of reducing the number of shots fireable before overheat, though, because IIRC heat buildup is based on per second usage rather than per shot. Yes, the heat sink on SCRs are per second values as opposed to per shot. That fuking sucks balls. Heat buildup was already a ***** to manage and now with three less shoots it is going to be more trouble than it is worth. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1536	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:24:00 - [6] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Only the RoF nerf has been stated. There might have been the unintentional side effect of reducing the number of shots fireable before overheat, though, because IIRC heat buildup is based on per second usage rather than per shot. Yes, the heat sink on SCRs are per second values as opposed to per shot. That fuking sucks balls. Heat buildup was already a ***** to manage and now with three less shoots it is going to be more trouble than it is worth. Still enough to kill someone, particularly if you land a few head shots. Just a little worse at fighting multiple opponents at close range which it isn't meant to be good at in the first place. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3611	Posted - 2014.09.24 23:09:00 - [7] - Quote I haven't used it, yet.
buzzzzzzz killllllllll Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 700	Posted - 2014.09.24 23:26:00 - [8] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating. I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives? Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon. Hey I have just been testing out my templar scrambler. They changed RoF down to 600rpm = this was intended and its fine. You can still absolutely spam shots off trust me. EDIT - I was using Templar assault so I had level 5 Amarr bonus. There might well be an issue with the weapon on other suits, I will try it out. They decreased hipfire slightly and tbh I didn't notice a massive penalty so that's ok. The damage of the weapon has been reduced however to 65 (On the Templar Scrambler it was more before) and I could not find any mention of this happening, so I think they have done this in error. They also accidentally nerfed the RoF of the Assault variant so they need to fix a few things with the scrambler. its been 65 for a little while, i think maybe a previous hotfix or an update Nerf my heavy suit, its so OP its UP
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 259	Posted - 2014.09.24 23:33:00 - [9] - Quote I only fire enough shots to break shields, then switch to my trusty SMG. It got nerfed but it actually feels better with the improvement to hip fire.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 75	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:17:00 - [10] - Quote Ahh now I crack open a beer spark a spliff and laugh at the qq that was so long awaited.

Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3611	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:19:00 - [11] - Quote I can still fire the same amount of shots before overheating. I, uh, i don't use a modded controller through so my finger isn't the best at doing a steady flow of constant shots.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 75	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:24:00 - [12] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating. I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives? Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon. Yo it wasnt just the mod controller users, the scr was too good at taking out multiple targets in cqc which it wasnt designed to do so it got fixed.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 293	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:35:00 - [13] - Quote 65x14 910 910 damage before overheat. Many Assaults can take that and live, especially if they are Amarr or Gallente. Taking out ANY (even militia) Heavy frames is going to be damn near impossible. Nerfed into the ground lol. Headshots aren't required to kill on any of the other rifles. Why should the ScR require them? For comparison, the other rifles can do upwards of 2000 damage before they have to reload. Nerf the AR to a 27 round mag, the CR to a 33 round mag, and the RR to a 17 round mag. That would make it fair.
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 585	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:42:00 - [14] - Quote I'll try it out on my ak.0 later, and Templar. Squadmates never complained though. Only Dust player with all Proto Weapons Prof 1. 19/19. Pilot, Slayer, Logibro, Heavy, Scout, Tanker, AV'er. Everything.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 203	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:50:00 - [15] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Only the RoF nerf has been stated. There might have been the unintentional side effect of reducing the number of shots fireable before overheat, though, because IIRC heat buildup is based on per second usage rather than per shot. Yes, the heat sink on SCRs are per second values as opposed to per shot. That fuking sucks balls. Heat buildup was already a ***** to manage and now with three less shoots it is going to be more trouble than it is worth. Still enough to kill someone, particularly if you land a few head shots. Just a little worse at fighting multiple opponents at close range which it isn't meant to be good at in the first place. un fortunatley the assault scrambler isnt very good at that either no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Zindorak 1.U.P 944	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:53:00 - [16] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating. I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives? Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon. Yea i liked the weapon and then the QQ's gt it nerfed as well Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 77	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:54:00 - [17] - Quote Tried it today with my ak.0 assault and I also noticed that it overheats a bit faster, more if you charge a shot. It's stupid because charged shot were what made ScR a skilled weapon, now they arent worth it anymore... Sorry for my bad english ^^
Zindorak 1.U.P 944	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:55:00 - [18] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Tried it today with my ak.0 assault and I also noticed that it overheats a bit faster, more if you charge a shot. It's stupid because charged shot were what made ScR a skilled weapon, now they arent worth it anymore... Yea Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1760	Posted - 2014.09.25 01:27:00 - [19] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Before this patch I could fire an average of 17 shoots before overheating with a non Amarr assault suit. But today I could only fire 14 shoots before overheating. I checked all the patch notes and nothing is said about an increase to heat buildup only that it's ROF was reduced so what gives? Also, fuk each and every one of you mode controller asshats for contributing to the nerf of my favorite weapon. Hey I have just been testing out my templar scrambler. They changed RoF down to 600rpm = this was intended and its fine. You can still absolutely spam shots off trust me. EDIT - I was using Templar assault so I had level 5 Amarr bonus. There might well be an issue with the weapon on other suits, I will try it out. They decreased hipfire slightly and tbh I didn't notice a massive penalty so that's ok. The damage of the weapon has been reduced however to 65 (On the Templar Scrambler it was more before) and I could not find any mention of this happening, so I think they have done this in error. They also accidentally nerfed the RoF of the Assault variant so they need to fix a few things with the scrambler. its been 65 for a little while, i think maybe a previous hotfix or an update Ok thanks man, oh damn! Its the first time I have looked at the stats in a while. Oh well 65 is reasonable for standard tier I guess. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 669	Posted - 2014.09.25 01:29:00 - [20] - Quote ROF got nerfed I think



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