DUST Search - Oh gawd that's just pityful.

Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:

Thurak1 wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

One AV person, who's fitting (swarms) can only damage vehicles and nothing else, is incredibly specialized in killing vehicles. They should kill vehicles.

Why should one player in a dropship require multiple players to kill? One player equals one player.

If 1 ADS does not equal 1 AV, than 1 ADS is OP.

/aplause

You forget that many players can just train up their AV and then spam it at will. We're dealing with the difference between a player who wants to play a role and power players that just go pull out whatever to get a kill. This game has been ruined by that.

Force infantry to stick to the AV role in a match then we'll talk. I'll say again, the answer is to have greater contrast between offense and defense. If you equip for defense then you won't be so good at offense but will be able to take the hits. If you go offense then one AV equals one vehicle.

It is wrong to make AV so powerful when one can simply skill it up as a FOTM, reequip at a depot or on respawn then go right back to being non-AV. In the meantime I am still trying to run a dropship.


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Vesta Opalus Kang Lo Holding 40	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:15:00 - [1] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: One AV person, who's fitting (swarms) can only damage vehicles and nothing else, is incredibly specialized in killing vehicles. They should kill vehicles. Why should one player in a dropship require multiple players to kill? One player equals one player. If 1 ADS does not equal 1 AV, than 1 ADS is OP. Actually 1 AV should be greater than one ADS :\
Vesta Opalus Kang Lo Holding 40	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:43:00 - [2] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: One AV person, who's fitting (swarms) can only damage vehicles and nothing else, is incredibly specialized in killing vehicles. They should kill vehicles. Why should one player in a dropship require multiple players to kill? One player equals one player. If 1 ADS does not equal 1 AV, than 1 ADS is OP. /aplause You forget that many players can just train up their AV and then spam it at will. We're dealing with the difference between a player who wants to play a role and power players that just go pull out whatever to get a kill. This game has been ruined by that. Force infantry to stick to the AV role in a match then we'll talk. I'll say again, the answer is to have greater contrast between offense and defense. If you equip for defense then you won't be so good at offense but will be able to take the hits. If you go offense then one AV equals one vehicle. It is wrong to make AV so powerful when one can simply skill it up as a FOTM, reequip at a depot or on respawn then go right back to being non-AV. In the meantime I am still trying to run a dropship. Why would anyone choose to play a role all game that is completely ineffective at removing the threat it faces? AV can't kill a properly driven vehicle, even after the newest hotfix, unless the vehicle driver is a complete moron or there are so many AV players opposing him that they kill him in one volley. As long as AV is just an area denial tool instead of a killing vehicle tool, there will be no real deterrent on vehicles and no real reason to play AV. I don't know anyone who trains up their AV to spam it at will. What I have experienced is training into AV to help my poor blueberries not get farmed by invincible killing machines, and finding that that AV is completely ineffective. So I start up a vehicle alt to counter vehicles with their only valid counter, more vehicles. After seeing how mindnumbingly easy it is to run a tank or dropship, I decide not to play that alt anymore because its so boring being invincible to almost everything the enemy can throw at you. I go back to my main infantry character, after ignoring and evading vehicles constantly for a few weeks who are completely ruining the game for everyone who isnt in a vehicle, I grudgingly spec into a new kind of AV (forge guns, because swarms shouldnt be able to kill anything apparently) just so I can give my team a chance in hell of not getting farmed for the half minute during which I can run forge or swarms before some infantry come and slaughter me because I set off the "COME ** ME" sign of using AV. Thats the real experience of using AV right there. Pilots who claim being a swarmer is some kind of easy mode kill farming fit are the biggest cunts in dust. Firing off a swarm is equivalent to setting off fireworks that spell out MURDER ME in the sky above you. My swarm fits name is Suffering, or at least it was before I deleted it. The things are complete **. Even now any competent pilot can get away from them unless 3+ people are firing them at you.