It was on top of the food chain without skills.

I couldn't aim worth a crap and managed to still get a single ads past game wide kdr average.

Dude that's every day for me; living from pay check to paycheck in dust 514.

I've been roughly breaking even in pubs as infantry for months. If I wasn't sitting on an ISK pile from earlier patches, I'd be poor.

One AV person, who's fitting (swarms) can only damage vehicles and nothing else, is incredibly specialized in killing vehicles. They should kill vehicles.

Why should one player in a dropship require multiple players to kill? One player equals one player.

If 1 ADS does not equal 1 AV, than 1 ADS is OP.

And while we at it , ambush match 10.43 UTC how is it possible for a Python in its "weakened" state to tank 3 point blank shots from a Wyrkomi Breach Forge with 2 complex dam mods and fly away ? Comes back in 15 seconds fully shielded and armored again?

No, but an AV should have at least as good of a chance of killing a tank as that tank has of killing the AV.

Sure, two people for AV makes sense, if it requires two people to operate your ADS.



An extra 100k ISK for your fit shouldn't mean you never have to replace it.

Again, you're still trying to argue you should need two people to kill you.

At any given time, maybe three to five people can even damage your ADS. Meanwhile, all 16 people on the team can kill an AV user. And you're going to cry about having to watch for threats around you?

Plasma cannon with damage mods.

First:

ADSs are a glass cannon. You pilots treat it like it should a be a flying tank.

Stop HOVERING for long periods of time and be smart. ADSs weren't and will never be Gunships. You guys cry that you have so much skill because you have to watch out for threats.... guess what. So does everyone in Dust. It's a little thing called Situational Awareness and anyone that has played Dust for long periods of time will have developed that trait. Not just pilots.

Do strafing runs. That was CCP's intended role for the ADS

Stop crying because you can't hover over an area packed with enemies and kill them all and quickly flee at the moment of even slight counter against you. That makes you look like a scrub that was only using the ADS to farm infantry and help up your KDR.

If you needed the 50% rate of fire Python missile skill to kill infantry WITH missiles then you should stop playing all together. Small missiles on a Dropship/ADS have been an OP combo for months. But the Python was OP in terms on how fast it could let high alpha damage with little to no threat. Also if I can perform extremely good in my ADV missile Incubus that has no bonus to missils whatsoever, why do you need the 50% rate of fire bonus on your Python that has Proto missiles?

All these changes were long coming and I warned you all to minimise ADS infantry farming exploits or else the ADS would get nerfed. But all you pilots decided to still use to farm infantry. Now that the changes have come and it is a little harder for you to farm infantry and you are whining about it, either stop flying or leave the game. We don't need anymore try-hard scrubs in this game.

PS: I'm an ADS pilot. One of the very first. They were the first thing I skilled into when Uprising made it's debut because I love to be the pilot of aanything that resembles a jet. Back then, there were so few of us. Even for months ADS pilots were a rarity in games. But when there was one, you could see how skilled they were.

Then 1.7 dropped. I startred seeing more and more ADSs. 8 out of 10 matches were packing 1 or 2 ADSs. When tanks got nerfed in 1.8 and Railguns Alpha. Almost every match had an ADS farming infantry and destroying vehicles in the field with no risk to them because they needed no maneuvers to counter AV. Just hit the AB and fly high up to the ceiling and wait for health to comeback.

The ever increasing spam of ADS per match made it seem like it was starting to be a FOTM. Most of these pilots presented no skills whatsoever. Just use a Python with missils and anyone woul go up to 30-0 a match. Now that said FOTM ha been made to require skill and timing to dodge AV you guys cry? HTFU and learn how to dodge AV instead of spaming the AB and heading towards the ceilingor redline.

Maybe if you didn't fit swarms on a Logi, you could like, use a sidearm or something?

{Cough} Commandos {Cough}{Cough}

Well, this will be entertaining.

What skills do you think an AVer spends SP on?


That's a null point, as he's referring to the Swarm Launcher, not a Secondary Weapon.

How are you going to fit an AV weapon without a Dropsuit?

The same could be said about vehicles.

Again, how are you going to use your Swarm Launcher without a Dropsuit? And most importantly, how are you going to get 3 hits off when each of your locks take 1.2s?

Now that I think of it, how are you even investing into Swarm Launchers when you don't have Weaponry II and Light Weaponry IV?

Doesn't change the fact that Small Turrets, and their secondary skills can be used with any vehicle in DUST 514, along with their Core Skills.

The only thing Dropsuits can do that Dropships cannot is repair other units and hack objectives.

You want me to calculate your ADS rig vs my AV rig in terms of SP investment?

Be bright back.