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man- bear pig
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Posted - 2014.09.24 15:44:00 -
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Now that Delta is live, why have you still not released the changes to rifles? It is final and put into place, so there's really no reason to keep it hidden, it's actually worse to keep it quiet. Take my SCR for example, I saw that the ROF has changed. It is an ok change, because I could still shoot it as fast as I could before and didn't notice any delay. However, for a bit I thought that you had increased the kick back of my SCR, because it didn't seem right.
I played some more and realized that it wasn't changed, or I was able to overcome the slight change. I was getting hit by a rail rifle and I felt that it had it's range increased, because I didn't feel like it used to be able to hit me at that range before. I got demolished by a standard laser rifle, which never happens, so I'm pretty sure you increased the damage. I also got a sketchy death by an assault rifle, but i don't know why.
My point is that the unknown aspect of what got changed with the rifles is setting up a situation where there is a placebo effect. No one knows what rifles got changed and how, we just know that either some or all of them did. I just listed the ideas I have as to what changed, but I really don't know, and I'm stuck with these ideas. Wither I want them to or not, they will alter my view on the game and on the rifles unless I get evidence to prove them wrong.
I'm not the only one who will get ideas about rifle changes, and not everyone will be able to realize that their ideas may be wrong, and that these ideas will ultimately alter their view of what they encounter in the game, good or bad.
I'm sure CCP, the CPM, and yourself don't want to have to constantly keep reading forum posts from people screaming and crying about guns being to nerfed or op when you never even touched that rifle.
If you do not want to release the numbers, please just state which rifles were changed and a basic explanation of how.
e.g. Scrambler rifle- ROF decreased
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man- bear pig
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:30:00 -
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Also, still getting modded controller SCR's, You just end up surviving for 2 seconds instead of 1. Changing the heat build up to per shot is the only way you'll get rid of them. |
man- bear pig
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:08:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:man- bear pig wrote:Also, still getting modded controller SCR's, You just end up surviving for 2 seconds instead of 1. Changing the heat build up to per shot is the only way you'll get rid of them. Look man hitting 600 rpm is easy, I too used to complain about obvious rapid fire mods but there is no way this can be an issue now. Its really not hard for even an average scrambler rifle user to hit a consistent 600rpm. You do realise that this is a very high dps weapon right? In fact the highest light weapon burst DPS.
Yes, I use it, I understand that it can perform at that level. I understand that people can get the rpm at that speed, but its when it is consistently at that speed, and the only thing that is changing is where they are shooting because I am moving it raises a question. When it also doesn't taper off at all, it simply stops after shooting for about 3 seconds, it raises a question, and when the guy is using frontline suit SCR in an ambush match doing this, yea I'm calling bullshit.
Your telling me that you can perform a 600rpm fire for 3 seconds straight, every time you shoot in the match, while at the same time use the same hand to track me as I dodge your bullets? |
man- bear pig
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:42:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:man- bear pig wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:man- bear pig wrote:Also, still getting modded controller SCR's, You just end up surviving for 2 seconds instead of 1. Changing the heat build up to per shot is the only way you'll get rid of them. Look man hitting 600 rpm is easy, I too used to complain about obvious rapid fire mods but there is no way this can be an issue now. Its really not hard for even an average scrambler rifle user to hit a consistent 600rpm. You do realise that this is a very high dps weapon right? In fact the highest light weapon burst DPS. Yes, I use it, I understand that it can perform at that level. I understand that people can get the rpm at that speed, but its when it is consistently at that speed, and the only thing that is changing is where they are shooting because I am moving it raises a question. When it also doesn't taper off at all, it simply stops after shooting for about 3 seconds, it raises a question, and when the guy is using frontline suit SCR in an ambush match doing this, yea I'm calling bullshit. Your telling me that you can perform a 600rpm fire for 3 seconds straight, every time you shoot in the match, while at the same time use the same hand to track me as I dodge your bullets? Next time I am on I will use the scrambler and see how it performs. I dont think it will be as hard as you make out man. The TAC AR used to be 500 and I found that very easy to oversample, the scrambler rof used to be what 700,750 something like that? Its lost a lot of rate of fire. I dunno man il get back to you after some testing as I know there are a few that will abuse what ever they can get no matter how small a margin. I'm just saying be open to the possibility that 600rpm is quite doable. You should try the weapon out yourself.
Right, I just told you I use it.
I'm bringing up the issue now because modded controllers were the main reason why it had it's ROF cut down. Even with a decreased ROF, a modded controller still turns it into an automatic rifle with almost no kick back and an extremely high dps. a change to ROF doesn't change the fact that in the hands of someone with a modded controller it is extremely powerful.
I love the gun, I'm trying to make sure it doesn't get it's DPS cut just because changing the ROF did nothing to get rid of the modded controllers. If you changed the heat build up to per shot, pumping out 600rpm with a modded controller is going to blow up on you a hell of a lot faster then someone using it with a regular controller, who is not putting out that ROF every time they shoot.
Right now, the heat build up system has the same amount of build up when using the rifle to fire 3 round bursts, and using it to fire as fast as you can. The system they have in place is great for automatic weapons (HMG and blaster) and consistent weapons (Laser rifle), but it doesn't not work for a semi auto rifle.
So before you start throwing insults and assuming I'm just ranting because you think I hate the SCR, play the game, run into a modded controller and tell me then that changing the ROF did anything to get rid of the cheaters. |
man- bear pig
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:58:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote: Next time I am on I will use the scrambler and see how it performs. I dont think it will be as hard as you make out man. The TAC AR used to be 500 and I found that very easy to oversample, the scrambler rof used to be what 700,750 something like that? Its lost a lot of rate of fire.
I dunno man il get back to you after some testing as I know there are a few that will abuse what ever they can get no matter how small a margin. I'm just saying be open to the possibility that 600rpm is quite doable. You should try the weapon out yourself.
If you read my comment earlier on the forum, you'd also see that I'm actually ok with the ROF at 600, I can still perform well with it, so the cut was not over extreme as many people were trying to say it was.
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