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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3065	Posted - 2014.09.23 20:57:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Swarm changed to 4 per volley - Higher alpha damage less impact time We're sorry, this waaahmbulance ride was unwarranted. Base damage of the four shot proto swarm is now 75 less than the six missile vomiting monster. 2. Swarm lock-on speed buffed- just over 4.5 seconds to let loose over 3000 damage Forge gun not only hits FASTER, but HARDER. and 3000 damage? Pull the other one. You can't do that with any weapon, though the Wyrkomi Breach Forge Gun comes close... unless you're talking about multiple shots... Does this mean my ability to output about 4,000 damage in less than 5 seconds is utterly unfair? Assault Forge: Wins. Should I apologize? 3. Swarm launcher damage mods buffed Wah. Now they can somewhat keep up with forge guns for damage. 4. Swarm launcher speed buffed a whole 10 M/S. that's really not a lot. 20% of a derpship's speed. They ain't catchin' you very fast I tell you what. 5. Swarm launcher acceleration buffed meh? 6. Swarm launcher commando bonus introduced. This was always a thing, and wasn't targeted at swarms. Only the Minmatar commando gets it. The one you should be worrying about is the Gallente Commando now that the PLASMA GO FASTA! 7. ADS bonus reduced from 50% to 15%. A bonus that costs 2 mil + SP. Yeah that's about how much Sp I've dumped into my Forge Gun. Have fun kids! This PSA brought to you by: A serious smartass!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3071	Posted - 2014.09.23 21:47:00 - [2] - Quote a brackers wrote: I know we are not getting a respec but every thing you said about forge is completly flawed. The forge actually needs some skill to use unlike the swarms Striving for accuracy with as much effort as the post I was responding to! Basically lazy generalizations! I'm well aware that the forge gun requires skill to use! It's the only thing that's worth firing at an ADS! I actually shot down a Python with a STD Plasma cannon. But let's face it, that was the Hail Mariest of Hail Mary Luck Shots.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3077	Posted - 2014.09.23 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Will you marry me?. You are not a real person. Your existence depends upon flimsy data transfer. So no.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3104	Posted - 2014.09.24 09:00:00 - [4] - Quote Culled from poison Diego: Whole 15 mill? No the hell you haven-¦t. I'm sorry, but I have spent over 25 million skill point into skills relevant to murdering dropships. The SP I've dumped into my commando suits is purely "for the funzies." Once I get PLC and swarms past prof 3 I'll up that number. All I see is whinig and moaning from a guy that has never jumped more than a feet from the ground. You can't even spell whining correctly while you do it. He was not asking for a comparison, he is telling you how it is. This is utterly onfair and ADS pilots deserve nothing but a full Dropship respec. "Telling me how it is?" I saw a buncha broad, irrelevant comparisons, most of which no one cared about until your precious RoF overdrive decided to go away. He used anecdotal evidence to claim something that is patently untrue. It's completely fair that easy mode is GOING AWAY. Dropship pilots deserve nothing. What was fun for you was an utterly miserable experience for the rest of us. Why the hell do you think I take such joy in making tanks, dropships and LAVs explode? Because you bastards roll around farming infantry kills then cry HTFU, QQ more, and get gud.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3116	Posted - 2014.09.24 13:27:00 - [5] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: THE HELL IS SO IMPORTANT ABOUT A RATE OF FIRE NERF!? If a swarm launcher or forge gunner is already aiming at you and charged/locked you are going to be hit rate of fire isn't going to fix that! They aren't lowering your hp or anything that would help them actually kill you! I am dead serious someone tell me how this is a great catastrophe for all ADS It means they can't farm the rest of the assauts under them before the magic (AV) happens.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3122	Posted - 2014.09.24 16:34:00 - [6] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dropship pilots deserve nothing. What was fun for you was an utterly miserable experience for the rest of us. Why the hell do you think I take such joy in making tanks, dropships and LAVs explode? Because you bastards roll around farming infantry kills then cry HTFU, QQ more, and get gud. By that logic, AV players deserve nothing: 1.6 was utter hell for ADS pilots. 400m lock-on Swarms that did more damage than now meant ADS pilots learned to run really fast, because showing your face got it blown off by seven guys in the redline. Or the 600m redline Large Railguns. It's swings and roundabouts: not every ADS pilot wants a broken game - most I have met agree with most of Judge's videos, essentially espousing balance. Don't tar everyone with the same label. the ones who aren't riding the B*tchandmoanmobile are exempt from every crass thing I have to say. The ones who test the changes and start giving constructive input are exempt from my snotty remarks. But the QQ sky-is-falling-chicken-little-avengers get nothing from me.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3122	Posted - 2014.09.24 16:35:00 - [7] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: While I have found no use for my Python, the hits to the Incubus aren't as horrible as I first feared. Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna fly a lot less now, but I've killed a couple tanks that weren't tanked up. Just got to be careful on those shots, you get like 6 or 7 before you overheat with Railguns. And now that Pythons barely shoot faster, I expect to see fewer as an Incubus can do just as well. That's just my experience from my 5 games. See, this is what we call: Constructive, observational information. LEARN HOW TO PROVIDE IT!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3124	Posted - 2014.09.24 16:56:00 - [8] - Quote Oh, to be fair, I would have dropped the RoF bonus to 5%. If I had known about the ADS fire rate bonus. Python missiles are about useless against my calsent so I barely notice them, and the missiles have been notoriously erratic in actual function. The Incubus was an absolute rapemobile on my AV fits. I had to pake a point to kill them outside 100m to make sure they didn't have a chance to more or less instablap me with the blasters. But I have a feeling that it will become rapidly evident that ADS DPS being dependent upon small turrets will cause more issues. Not so much for the blaster. The Railgun and Missile turrets may need some luvin' before they're up to snuff. The afterburner and swarm speed changes were needed.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3139	Posted - 2014.09.25 09:52:00 - [9] - Quote rob cap lad wrote: a full ads skill respec would be nice after all i we can only fire 7 rounds before over heating with rail.also the blaster over heats once then again then cools down rapid then over heats again after fireing 2 shots its like gliched. the rof is crap and is slower than what it was at lvl 1 when it were at 10%. i think all ads pilots need a good rof buff or a full ads respec. No one else gets them, so you should not be a special case. It's that simple.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3149	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:18:00 - [10] - Quote No other thing has been nerfed that badly? Do you pay attention? Do you play DUST? I remember Uprising 1.0 and the joy of having an HMG that was out-DPSed by a SCRAMBLER PISTOL doing body shots. I remember 1.7 when HAVs couldn't be killed without coordinated proto AV. They been nerfed pretty damn hard and now their infantry killing capacity just got neutered. I remember the flaylock before it got hammered into near nonexistence. Marauders were REMOVED because CCP decided that the AV balance of chromosome (which was amazing and fun for me because AV was hard) needed to be reworked from the ground up. Swarms were nerfed into complete uselessness after their day of glory. The gallente suit lost it's 4th low slot (hehehe like it should have) The mass driver has been systematically gimped in every patch until Rattati got the helm of this gloriously sinking ship. Shall I mention Enforcer HAVs? Logi vehicles? I would call removal a pretty big goddamn nerf. Get over yourself and quit acting like a selfish child.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3156	Posted - 2014.09.25 17:35:00 - [11] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Why the hell do you think I take such joy in making tanks, dropships and LAVs explode? Waaaait a second... I thought the whole nerf vehicles thing was because they couldn't be destroyed? I never called for vehicle nerfs. I thought they were hella OP in 1.7. I'm mostly responding to mewling crybabies who can't figure out how to make a constructive comment.

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