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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.09.23 20:09:00 -
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Right now the minmatar assault's regen stats are horrible. 25 hp/s and a delay of 6s/7s makes no sense for what is supposed to be one of the best shield tanking suits in the game. Even the amarr scout has better shield stats than this. Can you please change the stats to 35 hp/s and 4s/5s. For reference, the caldari scout has 50 hp/s and 2s/3s delay.
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Posted - 2014.09.23 22:21:00 -
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The Master Race wrote:Lol why does mobility never make it into these conversations lol it seems like there is nothing but scouts and trolls on the forums. I will leave it to you do to distinguish them.
The mobility difference is negligible when compared with the deifference in regen and hp.
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:40:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Atiim wrote:The Master Race wrote:Lol why does mobility never make it into these conversations lol it seems like there is nothing but scouts and trolls on the forums. I will leave it to you do to distinguish them. The difference in Movement Speed between MinAssault and CalAssault is literally 0.4m/s. That's so insignificant that I your most made me giggle.. The true mobility of the Minmatar suits lies in the stamina regen 
I assume you're being sarcastic, right?
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:13:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I really don't understand why Caldari suits have both greater shield regen and greater shield HP than Minmatar, isn't their supposed to be a trade off like more regen for less shields like how gal is more rep for less armor. Because the Minmatar aren't shield tankers, but the Caldari are. Its completely reasonable for the Caldari to have the best shield stats across the board, because they are the definative shield race. Minmatar are dual tankers with a slight speed advantage. Hence the 4/4 layout with better speed and stamina. Amarr: Armor, Armor Resists, Armor Regen Gallente: Armor Regen, Armor, and Speed. Minmatar: Dual Tanking(usually one or the other, but both is possible), A/S Regen, and Speed. Caldari: Shields, Shield Resists, Shield Regen
Then what's the point of using the minmatar? It gains 0.4 m/s in exchange for roughly 55 hp and 5 hp/s shield regen and 20% worse recharge delay and 33% worse depleted delay. I agree caldari should be better shield tankers overall but currrently there is too large of a gap between the two.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:41:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I really don't understand why Caldari suits have both greater shield regen and greater shield HP than Minmatar, isn't their supposed to be a trade off like more regen for less shields like how gal is more rep for less armor. Because the Minmatar aren't shield tankers, but the Caldari are. Its completely reasonable for the Caldari to have the best shield stats across the board, because they are the definative shield race. Minmatar are dual tankers with a slight speed advantage. Hence the 4/4 layout with better speed and stamina. Amarr: Armor, Armor Resists, Armor Regen Gallente: Armor Regen, Armor, and Speed. Minmatar: Dual Tanking(usually one or the other, but both is possible), A/S Regen, and Speed. Caldari: Shields, Shield Resists, Shield Regen Then what's the point of using the minmatar? It gains 0.4 m/s in exchange for roughly 55 hp and 5 hp/s shield regen and 20% worse recharge delay and 33% worse depleted delay. I agree caldari should be better shield tankers overall but currrently there is too large of a gap between the two. I don't disagree with that. The HP gap is getting reduced quite a bit soon though, so eventually the min will have the highest speed/HP ratio in the game, hardly something to balk about, ask any seasoned FPS vet. The problem here stems from people trying to just shield tank their min suits and expecting them to perform on par with a cal suit set up in a similar manner. Use ferroscales, kin cats and repairers people! Tone it down with the regulators. You have a balanced layout for a reason.
If you're going to do that, you might as well use a gallente or amarr assault. The minmatar assault has no purpose. It can't rep tank as well as the caldari, dual tank as well as the gal/ammarr, or speed tank as well as a scout. If you disagree, maybe you could give me an example of how you would fit a minmatar assault?
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Atiim wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Minmitar suits across the board need a buff of about 15% to recharge rate, and switch regen delay with caldari Instead of switching the delays, why not simply match them? There's no need to nerf Caldari Dropsuits. The delays need to be better than caldari suit delays. Theres no reason that caldari dropsuits should get a monopoly on all shield tanking advantages Other than that they are the shield race. The only sheild race. The only designated shield race. Saying the Caldari shouldn't have the best shields is like saying the Amarr shouldn't have the most armor. It simply isn't true. They should have the best shields. The Minmatar are not a shield race. The have near equal base HP values and near equal slot layouts. Minmatar are dual tankers.
minmatar are certainly shield tankers. They just focus more on shield regen rather than shield hp. The current stats don't reflect this.
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Posted - 2014.09.27 13:39:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:[quote=Atiim]
The delays need to be better than caldari suit delays. Theres no reason that caldari dropsuits should get a monopoly on all shield tanking advantages Other than that they are the shield race. The only sheild race. The only designated shield race. Saying the Caldari shouldn't have the best shields is like saying the Amarr shouldn't have the most armor. It simply isn't true. They should have the best shields. The Minmatar are not a shield race. The have near equal base HP values and near equal slot layouts. Minmatar are dual tankers. minmatar are certainly shield tankers. They just focus more on shield regen rather than shield hp. The current stats don't reflect this. But the 4/4 layout does
The caldari slot layout is better for both regen and shield hp
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:44:00 -
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still an issue
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Posted - 2014.10.05 21:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Minmitar suits across the board need a buff of about 15% to recharge rate, and switch regen delay with caldari Instead of switching the delays, why not simply match them? There's no need to nerf Caldari Dropsuits.
agreed
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:45:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I really don't understand why Caldari suits have both greater shield regen and greater shield HP than Minmatar, isn't their supposed to be a trade off like more regen for less shields like how gal is more rep for less armor. Because the Minmatar aren't shield tankers, but the Caldari are. Its completely reasonable for the Caldari to have the best shield stats across the board, because they are the definative shield race. Minmatar are dual tankers with a slight speed advantage. Hence the 4/4 layout with better speed and stamina. Amarr: Armor, Armor Resists, Armor Regen Gallente: Armor Regen, Armor, and Speed. Minmatar: Dual Tanking(usually one or the other, but both is possible), A/S Regen, and Speed. Caldari: Shields, Shield Resists, Shield Regen Then what's the point of using the minmatar? The CR.
The breach ar is better than the CR.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.10.16 01:50:00 -
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hopefully we can see this in echo
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Posted - 2014.10.16 02:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Right now the minmatar assault's regen stats are horrible. 25 hp/s and a delay of 6s/8s makes no sense for what is supposed to be one of the best shield tanking suits in the game. Even the amarr scout has better shield stats than this. Can you please change the stats to 30 hp/s and 4s/5s. For reference, the caldari scout has 50 hp/s and 2s/3s delay. Minmatar are not supposed to be the best shield tankers available. They are adaptable shield or armour tankers will a focus on speed. Jack of all Trades with enough fire power for the rest not to matter.
I know. There should however be a reason to use the suit, correct? It doesn't have enough pg to duel tank and the speed difference is negligible between it and the other assaults. I'm just asking for its shield stats to be better, but still worse than the caldari's.
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