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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:57:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I really don't understand why Caldari suits have both greater shield regen and greater shield HP than Minmatar, isn't their supposed to be a trade off like more regen for less shields like how gal is more rep for less armor.
Because the Minmatar aren't shield tankers, but the Caldari are. Its completely reasonable for the Caldari to have the best shield stats across the board, because they are the definative shield race.
Minmatar are dual tankers with a slight speed advantage. Hence the 4/4 layout with better speed and stamina.
Amarr: Armor, Armor Resists, Armor Regen
Gallente: Armor Regen, Armor, and Speed.
Minmatar: Dual Tanking(usually one or the other, but both is possible), A/S Regen, and Speed.
Caldari: Shields, Shield Resists, Shield Regen
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:26:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I really don't understand why Caldari suits have both greater shield regen and greater shield HP than Minmatar, isn't their supposed to be a trade off like more regen for less shields like how gal is more rep for less armor. Because the Minmatar aren't shield tankers, but the Caldari are. Its completely reasonable for the Caldari to have the best shield stats across the board, because they are the definative shield race. Minmatar are dual tankers with a slight speed advantage. Hence the 4/4 layout with better speed and stamina. Amarr: Armor, Armor Resists, Armor Regen Gallente: Armor Regen, Armor, and Speed. Minmatar: Dual Tanking(usually one or the other, but both is possible), A/S Regen, and Speed. Caldari: Shields, Shield Resists, Shield Regen Then what's the point of using the minmatar? It gains 0.4 m/s in exchange for roughly 55 hp and 5 hp/s shield regen and 20% worse recharge delay and 33% worse depleted delay. I agree caldari should be better shield tankers overall but currrently there is too large of a gap between the two.
I don't disagree with that. The HP gap is getting reduced quite a bit soon though, so eventually the min will have the highest speed/HP ratio in the game, hardly something to balk about, ask any seasoned FPS vet.
The problem here stems from people trying to just shield tank their min suits and expecting them to perform on par with a cal suit set up in a similar manner.
Use ferroscales, kin cats and repairers people! Tone it down with the regulators. You have a balanced layout for a reason. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.24 08:03:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:
Then what's the point of using the minmatar? It gains 0.4 m/s in exchange for roughly 55 hp and 5 hp/s shield regen and 20% worse recharge delay and 33% worse depleted delay. I agree caldari should be better shield tankers overall but currrently there is too large of a gap between the two.
I don't disagree with that. The HP gap is getting reduced quite a bit soon though, so eventually the min will have the highest speed/HP ratio in the game, hardly something to balk about, ask any seasoned FPS vet. The problem here stems from people trying to just shield tank their min suits and expecting them to perform on par with a cal suit set up in a similar manner. Use ferroscales, kin cats and repairers people! Tone it down with the regulators. You have a balanced layout for a reason. If you're going to do that, you might as well use a gallente or amarr assault. The minmatar assault has no purpose. It can't rep tank as well as the caldari, dual tank as well as the gal/ammarr, or speed tank as well as a scout. If you disagree, maybe you could give me an example of how you would fit a minmatar assault?
Here's what I would use if I was heavily skilled into min assault.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/7940
If kincats weren't so PG hungry, I would use one instead of a ferroscale. But alas.
You have 4 low slots. They were meant for more than regulators. If you were a designated shield tanker, don't you think you would have more highs than lows?
The Minmatar are dual tankers, with a small preference for Shields in eve lore. But really, anything that works best for that specific need is what they use. They are the adaptable race in the end of it all. And that fits them just fine. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.24 13:59:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:All the assault suits suck its not just Minmatar
I disagree.
Assault suits are fine now.
Any more HP and they marginalize Commandos.
Any more speed and they marginalize scouts.
Any more equipment and they marginalize Logis.
They seem to have a strong middle ground.
Only **** players can't make an Assault work nowadays. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.25 00:45:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Atiim wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Minmitar suits across the board need a buff of about 15% to recharge rate, and switch regen delay with caldari Instead of switching the delays, why not simply match them? There's no need to nerf Caldari Dropsuits. The delays need to be better than caldari suit delays. Theres no reason that caldari dropsuits should get a monopoly on all shield tanking advantages
Other than that they are the shield race. The only sheild race. The only designated shield race. Saying the Caldari shouldn't have the best shields is like saying the Amarr shouldn't have the most armor. It simply isn't true. They should have the best shields.
The Minmatar are not a shield race. The have near equal base HP values and near equal slot layouts. Minmatar are dual tankers.
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