DUST Search - question for swarm users

SILENT GIANT wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

I use assault's all the time and I just don't see what you people are seeing .

The specialist to me are horrible because of that increased lock on time , it seems like it's three times the lock on time sometimes and if your not in a trap area for vehicles , they get away easily .

I just don't see the problem with assaults that most of you are talking about .

I smash with assault swarms , but I do swarm and anti-vehicle every match ... I swarm way more then I forge .

Are you smashing two vehicles at once, besides Jeeps? If you have only one target, than the assault is gonna be the same as the other, but if you have two targets your just gonna annoy two tanks and not get anything accomplished but drawing attention to yourself. I guess it would kinda suck if it locked on to an unmanned enemy turret while trying to take out a vehicle, and not only caused the enemy to come find you but now you got the turret firing back as well. Ugh

Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .


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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1216	Posted - 2014.09.23 22:33:00 - [1] - Quote I use assault's all the time and I just don't see what you people are seeing . The specialist to me are horrible because of that increased lock on time , it seems like it's three times the lock on time sometimes and if your not in a trap area for vehicles , they get away easily . I just don't see the problem with assaults that most of you are talking about . I smash with assault swarms , but I do swarm and anti-vehicle every match ... I swarm way more then I forge . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1218	Posted - 2014.09.23 23:16:00 - [2] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I use assault's all the time and I just don't see what you people are seeing . The specialist to me are horrible because of that increased lock on time , it seems like it's three times the lock on time sometimes and if your not in a trap area for vehicles , they get away easily . I just don't see the problem with assaults that most of you are talking about . I smash with assault swarms , but I do swarm and anti-vehicle every match ... I swarm way more then I forge . Are you smashing two vehicles at once, besides Jeeps? If you have only one target, than the assault is gonna be the same as the other, but if you have two targets your just gonna annoy two tanks and not get anything accomplished but drawing attention to yourself. I guess it would kinda suck if it locked on to an unmanned enemy turret while trying to take out a vehicle, and not only caused the enemy to come find you but now you got the turret firing back as well. I can solo HAV's and Derps because I don't split my shots , I focus on one at a time and spam volleys at whatever is my focal point so that I can move on to the next object . I don't get caught up in trying to kill or damage two vehicles at once , if there two HAV's in the same area , I take out the one that I deem easiest and then focus on the other , most of the times ... they run into each other trying to avoid swarms so as long as they are in the same area , that's easier to me because I can put up volleys with the best of them . One to the other , with focus on the weakest to the strongest . I can solo with my forge as well so I guess it's who is using what because I anti-vehicle every match and when I say every I mean every , I can HMG in the compound , snipe in the hills but I always focus on anti-vehicle because it goes forgotten most of the time . Most players scout , use ADS's , use heavies , assault , commando and logi . I try to do what most are not so that nothing goes without , I play a support role and I focus on that . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1218	Posted - 2014.09.23 23:27:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I just don't see the problem with assaults that most of you are talking about . The problem is that you could do the same with the normal SL but without 2x the ISK price and CPU/PG higher than a Viziam Scrambler Rifle. I don't look at it like that , most of these players try to fit proto everything on their person , I place on me what is the most useful for the occasion and if it's assault swarms , I make sure that I'm built strong enough to support myself but at the same time deal the most damage with every volley . What's the difference when your placing complex shield enhancers or damage mods or repairers , they take up a lot of PG / CPU as well but that doesn't stop players from running triple damage mods on a scout or assault or triple reps or kin cats or armor mods . I build my suits around what that focus for that suit is and what I have skilled into . I don't always go with damage because that leaves a lot of other area's uncovered but when you have your core maxed , it's easy to do multiple things , I don't have mine maxed so I have to work with what I have to the best of my abilities . The PG / CPU doesn't bother me as long as my support system is enough to keep me constant . It's no different then a proto player doing the same , except I'm not a proto player . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1218	Posted - 2014.09.24 01:56:00 - [4] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: ...but there is no point behind using the Assault when the Vanilla can do the same thing to one vehicle. You have no additional damage output, faster lock, anything. You hamper your fit for the same damage output. This isn't a Proto v something else. This is a Proto Swarm v Proto Assault Swarm. You have 4 missiles, they have the same damage output and lock. One has lower cost, CPU, and PG while one can lock 2 targets. If you engage 1 at a time, there is no feasible reason to use an Assault except to hamper yourself. I'm not hampering myself if I can relieve some stress from my team mates in battle and given the chance , it's what I do . I'm not going to dispute with anyone about the methods that I choose to use because it works for me and I'm not changing anything as long as it works , It's not hard given the condition of vehicles now and how anti-vehicle is somewhat overpowered and I understand that others don't feel the way that I do but I anti-vehicle every match and I see what can and can not be done and I have a nice amount in vehicles as well so I know the in's and out's somewhat . Having knowledge of both helps me more then can be explained and I also understand my limits of what I can and can't do and it's been working for me so far and I haven't had to change one thing , if anything .. I believe that's helping me to become better in what I do . Play a match with me or against me and see how I wreck vehicles . I use all swarms , not just exclusively assaults .. so I'm not as limited as you would believe . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .