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        |  Scar Scrilla
 
 425
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 14:07:00 -
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 I'm planning to skill a little more into ADS. Should I go Incubus or Python (especially in the light of possible changes to Pythons rof nerf).
 
 What skills do I have to put SP into first? Which can be neglected? Which setup is recommended for either of the ADS types?
 
 I'm also willing to pay ISK for flying lessons!!
 
 Thanks in advance, Scar
 
 "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" " ... or grab a shotgun and REs." - UN1TE | 
      
      
        |  ResistanceGTA
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 1540
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 14:10:00 -
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 Well, the Incubus is getting hit harder than the Python. Small rails are having their ROF nerfed and then the Incubus skill is getting nerfed.
 
 If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.  Also, Raptors... | 
      
      
        |  Atiim
 
 12395
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 14:30:00 -
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 ResistanceGTA wrote:Well, the Incubus is getting hit harder than the Python. Small rails are having their ROF nerfed and then the Incubus skill is getting nerfed. The RoF of the 20GJ Railgun is being merged to accommodate the fixed damage profile.
 
 The DPS will remain the same.
 
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        |  ResistanceGTA
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 1540
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 14:42:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Well, the Incubus is getting hit harder than the Python. Small rails are having their ROF nerfed and then the Incubus skill is getting nerfed. The RoF of the 20GJ Railgun is being merged to accommodate the fixed damage profile. The DPS will remain the same. 
 So, my RoF goes from 120 to 92 and then I lose 35% of my bonus, and my DPS stays the same, good to know.
 
 If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.  Also, Raptors... | 
      
      
        |  CommanderBolt
 TerranProtossZerg
 
 1700
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 14:50:00 -
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 ResistanceGTA wrote:Atiim wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Well, the Incubus is getting hit harder than the Python. Small rails are having their ROF nerfed and then the Incubus skill is getting nerfed. The RoF of the 20GJ Railgun is being merged to accommodate the fixed damage profile. The DPS will remain the same. So, my RoF goes from 120 to 92 and then I lose 35% of my bonus, and my DPS stays the same, good to know. 
 Well technically, both of the ADS are receiving substantial changes and huge nerfs. Especially certain niche roles within the ADS umbrella.
 Missiles are being hit with a double too, the ADS RoF and then missile dmg profile changes.
 
 Out of them all, its the ADS skill RoF change I don't understand.
 
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        |  ResistanceGTA
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 1543
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 14:53:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Atiim wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Well, the Incubus is getting hit harder than the Python. Small rails are having their ROF nerfed and then the Incubus skill is getting nerfed. The RoF of the 20GJ Railgun is being merged to accommodate the fixed damage profile. The DPS will remain the same. So, my RoF goes from 120 to 92 and then I lose 35% of my bonus, and my DPS stays the same, good to know. Well technically, both of the ADS are receiving substantial changes and huge nerfs. Especially certain niche roles within the ADS umbrella.  Missiles are being hit with a double too, the ADS RoF and then missile dmg profile changes. Out of them all, its the ADS skill RoF change I don't understand. 
 I just want to know where it was discussed. I already went thru the Swarm/ADS threads in the Archive and couldn't find a single blue tag talking about it, it just came out of thin air.
 
 Also, why are Missiles getting the Projectile damage profile? Aren't they kind of..you know..explosive?
 
 If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.  Also, Raptors... | 
      
      
        |  Vulpes Dolosus
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 2098
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 15:20:00 -
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 Save you SP until after Delta. Right now it's not looking very promising, but we'll see if they're even still viable after.
 
 Dust was real! I was there! | 
      
      
        |  Breakin Stuff
 Goonfeet
 Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
 
 2960
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 15:37:00 -
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 ResistanceGTA wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Atiim wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Well, the Incubus is getting hit harder than the Python. Small rails are having their ROF nerfed and then the Incubus skill is getting nerfed. The RoF of the 20GJ Railgun is being merged to accommodate the fixed damage profile. The DPS will remain the same. So, my RoF goes from 120 to 92 and then I lose 35% of my bonus, and my DPS stays the same, good to know. Well technically, both of the ADS are receiving substantial changes and huge nerfs. Especially certain niche roles within the ADS umbrella.  Missiles are being hit with a double too, the ADS RoF and then missile dmg profile changes. Out of them all, its the ADS skill RoF change I don't understand. I just want to know where it was discussed. I already went thru the Swarm/ADS threads in the Archive and couldn't find a single blue tag talking about it, it just came out of thin air. Also, why are Missiles getting the Projectile damage profile? Aren't they kind of..you know..explosive? 
 That sounds like an oversight error. Will read the numbers and see what is up. Odd things like this slaughter my desire to mock.
 
 Check the rof and damage before/after on all smalls. If they were upped to compensate for base ADS skill nerf you might not lose anything.
 
 I will go poking and see if I can find anything glaring.
 
 But can we keep the "sky is falling" screaming to a minimum?
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        |  Operative 1125 Lokaas
 True Companion Planetary Requisitions
 
 381
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 16:25:00 -
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 Scar Scrilla wrote:I'm planning to skill a little more into ADS. Should I go Incubus or Python (especially in the light of possible changes to Pythons rof nerf).
 What skills do I have to put SP into first? Which can be neglected? Which setup is recommended for either of the ADS types?
 
 I'm also willing to pay ISK for flying lessons!!
 
 Thanks in advance, Scar
 
 
 
 Depends on whether you'd rather tank damage with armor or with speed. Hardeners and speed save the Python. Tanking with the plates and reps as a buffer to allow you to make a getaway is what you do in the Incubus.
 
 You want lessons? Watch Judge Radamanthus' Youtube videos. Also, see my dropship guide I wrote a long time ago. Note that the militia dropships fly differently. They were made easier to fly for newbies.
 
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1345879
 
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        |  Scar Scrilla
 
 425
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 16:58:00 -
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 Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:I'm planning to skill a little more into ADS. Should I go Incubus or Python (especially in the light of possible changes to Pythons rof nerf).
 What skills do I have to put SP into first? Which can be neglected? Which setup is recommended for either of the ADS types?
 
 I'm also willing to pay ISK for flying lessons!!
 
 Thanks in advance, Scar
 Depends on whether you'd rather tank damage with armor or with speed. Hardeners and speed save the Python. Tanking with the plates and reps as a buffer to allow you to make a getaway is what you do in the Incubus. You want lessons? Watch Judge Radamanthus' Youtube videos. Also, see my dropship guide I wrote a long time ago. Note that the militia dropships fly differently. They were made easier to fly for newbies.https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1345879 
 
 Thanks a lot o7
 
 "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" " ... or grab a shotgun and REs." - UN1TE | 
      
      
        |  Spkr4theDead
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 2126
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.22 17:06:00 -
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 Scar Scrilla wrote:I'm planning to skill a little more into ADS. Should I go Incubus or Python (especially in the light of possible changes to Pythons rof nerf).
 What skills do I have to put SP into first? Which can be neglected? Which setup is recommended for either of the ADS types?
 
 I'm also willing to pay ISK for flying lessons!!
 
 Thanks in advance, Scar
 Don't bother with them anymore.
 
 I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim | 
      
      
        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 167
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.09.23 02:25:00 -
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 Neither. Get an incubus with at least at1s and build up your reps and armor fitting. Trust me i know this sht like the back of my hand, 20+ mil all in dropships. With the rof change i dont think anyone should go python, 15% rof is nothing on missles. Maybe rail incubus later for dropship battles.
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