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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2957	Posted - 2014.09.22 11:55:00 - [1] - Quote With the most recent series of balance passes every single suit in the game has had it's tankability increased, and the grenade generation capacity on nanohives reduced. I believe it is time to bring grenade carrying capacity back up to the pre-nerf levels. For assault suits. Please add +1 to assault grenade counts to go with the grenade fitting reduction. They need them to have additional sentinel hardpoint and logi chain breaking capacity. Further, please bring back the 2s fuse. Sentinels have a 25% splash resistance and escaping nade blasts is easy even in a fatsuit if you pay attention. Assaults currently have additional tanking capacity so it should be unlikely that even a core locus or thukker impact grenade will kill a properly fitted assault on contact. STD and militia fits will probably get railed tho.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2980	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:17:00 - [2] - Quote Meee One wrote: OHK ruins games,look at destiny. -5 for lack of consideration for logistics. Actually I AM considering logistics. I'm considering the Logi + sentinel chain of death. I also don't believe for a split instant that Rattati's going to leave Logis in the crap state they're in now.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2982	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:08:00 - [3] - Quote Meee One wrote: LOL,he said 240 TOTAL eHP was fine for the minmatar logistics. During the initial proposal for charlie,he actually had logistics slated to be nerfed again. I have no doubt he will. Before fitting tank modules. Yawn Note that there is no nerf. Would you like to buy another tinfoil hat? Quote: You are a god damned idiot. True logis don't spam equipment,true logis only switch suits to refill their deployables. This does not invalidate the statement, because "purist" logis are in the absolute minority. The majority spam the hell out of everything with their deployables. And an idiot? tsk tsk tsk. Silly Meee one, thinking your opinion of me matters one bit except as a fine point of amusement to be shared with the other goons. Your tears are delicious by the way. Quote: Bullshit about farming the most WP in a logistics,you can farm 2x as much damaging impossible to kill vehicles. Vehicle damage isn't capped,equipment is. And yet even though I absolutely ripball the ever-loving crap out of the vehicles, I am usually passed by that one logi... Hmmm. Evidence does not bear out your claims. Quote: You are a stereotypical logistics hater. You never run logistics,but you believe they are OP in some way. Actually, no. I'm not a logi hater. Unless they're red dots. In which case they're priority targets. Kill the healer first. And I started DUST in beta as a logi. I find the role to be hilariously amusing. I also run Logi as my primary fleet fit in EVE. I just don't do it now because I like watching vehicles burn. Did i mention I'm not skilled into assaults either? I'm a sentinel, which means I'm usually the guy being REPPED by the good logis. You're not counted among them. Quote: You only ever encounter bad logistics and desire to lump them all together. Gtfo with your "waah but i needs mai grenades" excuses,they are lies. Grenades are OP being refillable at hives. Remove the refillable,and i'll side with you. But i refuse to sit here and let you try to con people into believing grenade spam is a good thing. I actually wouldn't benefit at all from this proposed change. I have all four sentinels at 5, all four commandos at 3, and not a point anywhere else. Since the change wouldn't affect my sentinel... and my Commando doesn't have grenades to begin with... How is this "waah but i needs mai grenades?" I have a goddamn HMG to plug people with, and it's MUCH better at slashing Logis up like the first hot chick you see in a horror movie.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2982	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:09:00 - [4] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: NEVER for the 2 second fuse! It was one of the most horrid times of Dust. In one of the most uniform flood of requests the fuse time was increased back on next update. There was hardly any people defending the instagib-fest. Assault and Logi didn't have 8 fitting slots back then either, and nade damage was nerfed since those days. Right now nades are all but worthless except as a distraction.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2985	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:27:00 - [5] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: NEVER for the 2 second fuse! It was one of the most horrid times of Dust. In one of the most uniform flood of requests the fuse time was increased back on next update. There was hardly any people defending the instagib-fest. Assault and Logi didn't have 8 fitting slots back then either, and nade damage was nerfed since those days. Right now nades are all but worthless except as a distraction. I disagree. While lesser variants were indeed damage nerfed, the Core Locus is still a brutal killer with considerable range. The most powerful nade sets the benchmarking level. Not long ago 'stop nade spam' threads were abundant. And now I never get hit by them even running a slow, overtanked amarr fatsuit. I get caught in a nade blast maybe once a week.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2991	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:40:00 - [6] - Quote Meee One wrote: You don't want to mess with someone from the Deep Web bro,just saying your writing a check your ass can't cash. Just to clarify. Did you just threaten me?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2998	Posted - 2014.09.22 21:23:00 - [7] - Quote Back on topic. I didn't include logistics in my considerations because I firmly believe Logis should be using their squad as their primary HP buffer and incoming bullet stoppers. I don't believe the game should be balanced around lone wolf anything. But with the boosts all suits have received after chromosome (the dayof the terror nades, which I thought was awesome) the current grenades shouldn't be able to oneshot most suits any more if they fit proper tanks.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3036	Posted - 2014.09.23 07:51:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: why not all mediums? Solely for cautionary reasons. While I'm not advers to logis per se... They have the easiest time rocking spam hives. They can resupply on the run easier.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3037	Posted - 2014.09.23 07:52:00 - [9] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: why not all mediums? Most that play the 'Assault' role don't exactly like to share with others, or to see another role be better than theres, the majority of scouts and sentinel classes running around today were hardly so numerous when the 'almighty assault' was king a year ago. we were few and weak as such easier to contain and balance, now.....not so much. The almighty assault hasn't been king since chromosome. And I'm a sentinel. I wouldn't benefit from this change.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3037	Posted - 2014.09.23 10:05:00 - [10] - Quote I think we should start with the assault class. If it turns out to not be obnoxious put it to all logi and medium frames. Sentinels and scouts already have their own special snowflake superpowers that are quite functional while forgetting you have nades in your pocket. Oh an amendment. I advocate fuse changes on locus only. Flux are pretty much a win button on shields. Instantly making cal suits screwed should not be made easier.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3037	Posted - 2014.09.23 10:17:00 - [11] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: lol, yes, let's bring back the 2 second fuse! Not enough people are using their grenades to kill themselves so you don't get the kill! Huh. Thats a thing? I call it a waste unless you take the scout with you. On a more serious note, there needs to be a little less dodgability and more threat. Eating a nade to deny an enemy a kill in a vidya game means someone takes it way too seriously.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3118	Posted - 2014.09.24 15:22:00 - [12] - Quote Like I said, I'm not adverse to a buff for all mediums. I think we should start with assaults and see how obnoxious it gets.

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