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Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:10:00 -
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For some reason, now that there's actually proper matchmaking, I'm having less fun. The matches just don't feel as exciting... IDK, it's weird... Balanced matches are making me rage... Does anyone else feel similarly?
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:12:00 -
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I'm not sure if that's balancing or the event....
what i think of when charging fg
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:27:00 -
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This is probably because you're a scrub who falls flat against players of equal or greater competence.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:29:00 -
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I can vouch for Dreis' competence.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:32:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:I can vouch for Dreis' competence. Well then I'll move to theory #2:
He's so used to being pitted against two squads of Prototype touting players by himself that the notion of not having to carry the entire team on his back bores him.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:44:00 -
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A truly balanced match is so awesome to be in. If it's scrubs vs scrubs, then it's lame. Because I'm scout who is wreckless, my KDR isn't perfect (less than a 2 lol) so I have to fight noobs all day when I roll solo.
(GIF)
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:58:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:For some reason, now that there's actually proper matchmaking, I'm having less fun. The matches just don't feel as exciting... IDK, it's weird... Balanced matches are making me rage... Does anyone else feel similarly?
No...
Balanced matches mean it comes down to the wire and you have to keep pushing, pobstomping turns into a boring "Hunt-the-Rabbit" exercise and being stomped is extremely frustrating.
What part of stomping, or being stomped, is fun?
Tell you what, sign up for Caldari FW and play that exclusively if you want to be "excited" about being regularly stomped, or sign up for Gal if you love doing the stomping.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.09.20 03:07:00 -
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I can't tell the difference. I still get into matches with heavily one-sided combat.
"Awesome Pants don't care. Awesome Pants don't give a s**t."
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.09.20 03:16:00 -
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I've been having a bit of the extra rage part, but I'm going to go ahead and blame that on stress and a few recent bad days that just so happened to coincide with the launch of this new matchmaking system. Perhaps Atiim's second theory is correct though. Going up against relatively balanced teams doesn't prove as challenging as going against a full squad of protos or two.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
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Posted - 2014.09.20 03:50:00 -
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This matchmaking is bull. I go into a match first day and I get put up against a Fatal Absolution squad against a whole solo team and they orbital or CRU. I just got a BK-42 :(
Scout 514 forever
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
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Posted - 2014.09.20 03:55:00 -
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Or maybe it's because protostompers hate it when they actually have to work for their kills. They get so used to just waltzing through the competition like they aren't there, when an actual fight comes up they get pissed. People so used to going 20-1, 33-4 now going 12-6, 19-8 etc. It's not going to be as fun for you when you are actually dying and have to respawn more than twice a match.
This is what players such as myself who are still trying to "Git Gud" and have a 1 or sub 1 KDR deal with every time we log in. I know I'm not the best FPS player in the world, but going against squads of Protostompers fighting it out to see which of the 5 or 6 is going to bury me the second I spawn in isn't exactly fun either. It's nice to know some of the vets and better players are starting to feel the frustration.
I'm on the opposite side of the fence as you OP. This is the most fun I've had since Open beta. I am actually getting to the point where I ENJOY playing again. Are there still matches where a group of Nyain San is going to completely obliterate my team and have a regular ambush match end up 42-0? Yeah, of course. But the matches where both teams are down to just a couple or zero clones going to the last second gets me excited. I'm able to run positive KDR on most of my matches, running primarily Logi because it seems no one else in Dust runs it anymore unless they are just running behind a Sentinel with a rep tool.
Oh, and on a side note, my FAVORITE part of this million clone challenge? I'm running suits that cost about 5k on average. I'm dying 40 times and it doesn't cost as much as some 200K + suits currently running around protostomping. The fact the owner probably has 200 million ISK in his wallet is meaningless to me.
This is nothing personal to you or anyone else on this thread, as most of the names I know and have fought against and respect. I'm a no name basically so most of you don't know me other than here on the forums. I just wanted to lend my 2 ISK and let you know that there are people on the other side of those stompings you put on who can't praise Rattati enough for this change.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.09.20 06:59:00 -
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I just finished a glorious match where me and a corp mate engaged in a massive Winner-Take-All HAV battle, four HAVs on their side, two on ours, everyone ignored infantry for the most part and just pummeled each other, lost two HAVs in the process just blew away 9 just by ourselves (Overview is OP) not counting the other tanker helping us.
Now that's fun, expensive, and challenging, moreso then a pubstomp.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:29:00 -
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Ha, well I've certainly felt a difference in the matchmaker, and had a couple of great games, like:
3815 wp, 24/0, 460k ISK, 9,6k SP
And i was using a tank fit that goes like this:
Sica ST-201 Missile Launcher Mlt Damage amplifier Mlt Shield hardener Mlt Armor repairer Mlt 120mm Armor plates
Yep... I can't believe how OP properly using amps and hardeners is, I killed 5 tanks, maybe more, I can't remeber.
32 kills with militia shotgun. OP? naaaaaah
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:31:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:For some reason, now that there's actually proper matchmaking, I'm having less fun. The matches just don't feel as exciting... IDK, it's weird... Balanced matches are making me rage... Does anyone else feel similarly?
no rattati fixed scotty brain dmg lol ive just had a few lag issues scotty finds me i match in under a minute now not 4 lol
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.20 14:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:This is probably because you're a scrub who falls flat against players of equal or greater competence. I get pitted with pitted with people who can't capture an objective more often than not, now. It's saddening. If I squad with better players, I get better matches though. Looks like my solo days are over |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.09.20 16:12:00 -
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I think it will take some time to change the mentality of people. I used to push for the objective no matter what the score, no matter who I played, but being the only guy pushing and dying 15 times pointlessly game after game finally broke me. I began playing selectively, pushing hard when it seemed worthwhile but just trying to cause mayhem when it didn't. That is what we saw for quite awhile, a push for 1 minute and usually the game was decide and we had 12 snipers in the redline. It will take some time to get people to believe anything has changed, especially since one sided stomps are far from rare and the vicious circle continues.
Because, that's why.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.20 16:37:00 -
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u got to realize the W/L and K/D ratios are going to drastically change the longer this system is in place
it was based on a bad system and to be honest W/L ratio was completely broken i'd say K/D ratio is more accurate a measure of skill at this point
it will take a while for the numbers to balance themselves out. they might never balance out for veteran players who have just such a dirty history of proto stomps |
Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.09.21 00:17:00 -
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Just to clarify, I'm not a Vet or anything. I'm not normally the one doing the stomping, I'm the guy that's getting stomped. The matches just seem like less of a challenge, you know, now that I'm not up against 2 full Proto squads every match. And less challenge seems to equal less fun for me... Nevertheless, I applaud Rattati, and I still think the Team Balancing update was much needed, even if the matches do seem a little lackluster for me...
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Ablerober
Sea of Sin
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Posted - 2014.09.21 00:26:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:For some reason, now that there's actually proper matchmaking, I'm having less fun. The matches just don't feel as exciting... IDK, it's weird... Balanced matches are making me rage... Does anyone else feel similarly?
Some of my matches are also making me rage. From the ten battles i've had tonight with my main character, eight of them had kaizuka sniper, dia farron1 and at least three members from 1.u.p on the opposite team.
Anyway, i've played my thirty matches (one on each of my characters) so i can move on now and do something else slightly more enjoyable.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
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Posted - 2014.09.21 00:40:00 -
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I for one , can't tell how good the matchmaking is ... I made an alt and after graduating was placed into matches with well known players for the first five matches straight .
I'm trying to play with this alt more then my main , I normally kill them within the first week but I'm going to try something different this time and hopefully with the boost from this event , my alt will be interesting .
When I use it though , I'm placed into matches that I wish I were using my main with because the caliber of player is exceptional .
If matchmaking worked then graduating players would face others of similar caliber .
I don't get mad because this is just the beginning of this change so ...
But in the instance with my alt , it seems like nothing changed .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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CharacterNameWasTaken
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.21 01:41:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:A truly balanced match is so awesome to be in. If it's scrubs vs scrubs, then it's lame. Because I'm scout who is wreckless, my KDR isn't perfect (less than a 2 lol) so I have to fight noobs all day when I roll solo. ik exactly how you feel i hate easily killing people its boooring i wabt a little bit of challenge also my kdr is below 2 too i think its 1.68. |
Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.21 02:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Well then I'll move to theory #2:
He's so used to being pitted against two squads of Prototype touting players by himself that the notion of not having to carry the entire team on his back bores him.
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Just to clarify, I'm not a Vet or anything. I'm not normally the one doing the stomping, I'm the guy that's getting stomped. The matches just seem like less of a challenge, you know, now that I'm not up against 2 full Proto squads every match. And less challenge seems to equal less fun for me... Nevertheless, I applaud Rattati, and I still think the Team Balancing update was much needed, even if the matches do seem a little lackluster for me... ROTFLMAO.
Holy ******* ****.
You called it.
Have some +1's.
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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