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zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 520	Posted - 2014.09.19 16:16:00 - [1] - Quote If you're not going to respond to anything or even give any sign that you're reading any of the ideas presented, then please take down this Project Legion General Discussion forum. There's nothing to discuss right now.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3432	Posted - 2014.09.19 16:39:00 - [2] - Quote The fact that there's nothing to discuss right now is not a reason to remove the discussion. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3339	Posted - 2014.09.19 17:41:00 - [3] - Quote yes it, its a perfect reason to get rid of the forum, if there is nothing go on get rid of this section, beucase right now anything CCP posts about legion is going to be met with a wall of hate, even if its god gift to gaming because of repeated 3 ******* years of CCP bullshit You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 520	Posted - 2014.09.19 18:21:00 - [4] - Quote Soraya what is this forum for then?
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 71	Posted - 2014.09.19 18:28:00 - [5] - Quote I just gotta say, you CPMs, you all SUCK! Because your main purpose is to voice our opinions and requests to the devs, and we are NOT asking for much, all it is, is just tell us if its happening or not. Fine we dont need details. But is the project still a go?? Will we be seeing something in the near future? Has the project been put on hold for now, and will be resumed sometime? Has it been cancelled?? Simple a$$ questions here....
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 129	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:39:00 - [6] - Quote Or green lit... As it is we may as well have been sold up in the river on a dream of a game they may not happen. Sure we are still playing dust but if this silence continues that may change. People won't stay with a limited product indeffinatly. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 133	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:57:00 - [7] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Soraya what is this forum for then? Discussing about something that might happen.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3436	Posted - 2014.09.19 21:52:00 - [8] - Quote SuperMido wrote: I just gotta say, you CPMs, you all SUCK! :'( SuperMido wrote: Because your main purpose is to voice our opinions and requests to the devs, and we are NOT asking for much, all it is, is just tell us if its happening or not. We're doing that. We are telling the devs that. Like every day. The fact that you're not getting the result you want, is not proof we are not doing our jobs, because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. We can't answer those questions for you. All we can do is tell CCP they need to answer those questions for you. And then it's up to them to actually do it. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 18	Posted - 2014.09.20 00:38:00 - [9] - Quote As of right now I believe project legion is dead But even if it weren't would it still be free to play on PC? and also why not just put everything from legion into dust instead of wasting all that money making another pointless game? Dust 514 is not a failure they just need to focus all efforts on it, I believe it can be resurrected. And another thing get off the CPM's back there doing there best to do what we are asking, so many people play this game they can't answer everyone at once. I like this game a lot, I don't want to see a good game die. A Corp free of conflict HGoA Ticker: 42014
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 369	Posted - 2014.09.20 00:44:00 - [10] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: As of right now I believe project legion is dead But even if it weren't would it still be free to play on PC? and also why not just put everything from legion into dust instead of wasting all that money making another pointless game? Dust 514 is not a failure they just need to focus all efforts on it, I believe it can be resurrected. And another thing get off the CPM's back there doing there best to do what we are asking, so many people play this game they can't answer everyone at once. I like this game a lot, I don't want to see a good game die. Be aware that the medium the game lives on -the PS3- is also dying. AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.

Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 18	Posted - 2014.09.20 00:55:00 - [11] - Quote True it is, but only if we let it A Corp free of conflict HGoA Ticker: 42014
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4872	Posted - 2014.09.20 03:04:00 - [12] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The fact that there's nothing to discuss right now is not a reason to remove the discussion. It kind of is.
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 318	Posted - 2014.09.20 04:30:00 - [13] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope).
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4873	Posted - 2014.09.20 05:09:00 - [14] - Quote Ghural wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Oh I'm sure that's exactly what he meant. And it is his non-paying job, entirely to talk to CCP and not to you. You elected him to do whatever the hell he pleased and the only binding part of that agreement is what he does with CCP. Now, if he wanted to get elected again he would probably be doing things in his power to keep the people happy... such as talking to them. As he has taken the position of being an ass (which I respect, actually) this is clearly not his desire. If I were elected the absolute last thing I would do is go to this dumbass community for an opinion. I mean his is worse, but at least he guards it well. That's about half the battle.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 369	Posted - 2014.09.20 08:54:00 - [15] - Quote To be honest, the CPM are getting flack because of factors outside their control: Because they are under a binding Non Disclosure Agreement, they can't tell us; they can't spill the beans on CCP's project even if we or they want those beans spilled. Basically, it's not CPM's fault they can't tell you what you want to know. AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 589	Posted - 2014.09.20 14:18:00 - [16] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Hector Carson wrote: As of right now I believe project legion is dead But even if it weren't would it still be free to play on PC? and also why not just put everything from legion into dust instead of wasting all that money making another pointless game? Dust 514 is not a failure they just need to focus all efforts on it, I believe it can be resurrected. And another thing get off the CPM's back there doing there best to do what we are asking, so many people play this game they can't answer everyone at once. I like this game a lot, I don't want to see a good game die. Be aware that the medium the game lives on -the PS3- is also dying. So then they should port it to PS4 like we asked them to. My reaction to Legion
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 370	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:23:00 - [17] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: True it is, but only if we let it No, no... Nothing we can do can stop the PS3 from going to the big scrapyard in the sky. It's just like with the Xbox (the original), the PS1 & PS2, the not quite there Xbox 360... And all those other consoles like the Game Cube, Gameboy, and the PSP. Times move on; technology and the people that use it will go with it. AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3442	Posted - 2014.09.22 14:06:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Now, if he wanted to get elected again he would probably be doing things in his power to keep the people happy... such as talking to them. As he has taken the position of being an ass (which I respect, actually) this is clearly not his desire. The inherent point, is that it is NOT within my power to tell you more things about Legion. Not only is it not my job, I'm legally forbidden from doing it. And yes, our job is primarily a one way communication, to take what we hear in the community, and talk to CCP about it. I'm not really planning on running for reelection anyhow, provided at least one other CPM1 member is running next time around to carry through the body of experience. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3339	Posted - 2014.09.22 14:13:00 - [19] - Quote Sorya I think that there is why you are fighting a losing a battle here. It would be better to say i have informed ccp for more information and leave at that. If cant/won't say then don't alude to it just flat out say don't no. Not saying how to ur job as cpm but people are a lot more forgiving im all lines of life of the phrase "don't know". But for real the community basicly assumes legion is dead at this point and I don't think the cpm acutal know anymore than us =ƒÿÉ You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4304	Posted - 2014.09.22 18:12:00 - [20] - Quote Ghural wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one: The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs). As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs. As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid). So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around. By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4306	Posted - 2014.09.22 18:23:00 - [21] - Quote The question of the day is, would it be a violation of the NDA to tell us: a)Whether Legion is still being worked on? b)What level of effort is being put into Legion development? c)How many Devs are working on Legion? It is clear that CCP do not want to tell us about what they are developing in Legion at this time. Hopefully that is because they want to dazzle us with their progress in the (hopefully near) future. However, maybe they could tell us about the effort they are putting into the development, even if they donGÇÖt want to tell us what they are actually doing. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3342	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:17:00 - [22] - Quote NDAs are normally so bad you cant even admit to what you know, even if its admitting you know nothing thats still in breach of a NDA (i have some really interesting jobs in my time :P) You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3476	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:34:00 - [23] - Quote Definitely can't say how many devs. Staffing/HR stuff isn't even in our purview to really ask about. I'd definitely like CCP to be more open with the community about Legion's development progress, and we'll keep bringing that up with CCP. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3344	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:40:00 - [24] - Quote we just want the old banter back we dont feel loved anymore :( You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3483	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:12:00 - [25] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: we just want the old banter back we dont feel loved anymore :( :'( CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 374	Posted - 2014.09.22 21:31:00 - [26] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: we just want the old banter back we dont feel loved anymore :( Yeah, come to think of it... A simple "X" would be sufficient... AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 374	Posted - 2014.09.22 21:33:00 - [27] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Ghural wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one: The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs). As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs. As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid). So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around. By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault. LISTEN! WITH AN E! Of all the words, it had to be one that was repeated and highlighted. AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 19	Posted - 2014.09.23 01:36:00 - [28] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Hector Carson wrote: True it is, but only if we let it No, no... Nothing we can do can stop the PS3 from going to the big scrapyard in the sky. It's just like with the Xbox (the original), the PS1 & PS2, the not quite there Xbox 360... And all those other consoles like the Game Cube, Gameboy, and the PSP. Times move on; technology and the people that use it will go with it. This is an example of a negative person A Corp free of conflict HGoA Ticker: 42014
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 374	Posted - 2014.09.23 06:19:00 - [29] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Hector Carson wrote: True it is, but only if we let it No, no... Nothing we can do can stop the PS3 from going to the big scrapyard in the sky. It's just like with the Xbox (the original), the PS1 & PS2, the not quite there Xbox 360... And all those other consoles like the Game Cube, Gameboy, and the PSP. Times move on; technology and the people that use it will go with it. This is an example of a negative person No, this is an example of a realist, not a pessimist. AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
CommanderBolt TerranProtossZerg 1719	Posted - 2014.09.23 09:02:00 - [30] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: SuperMido wrote: I just gotta say, you CPMs, you all SUCK! :'( SuperMido wrote: Because your main purpose is to voice our opinions and requests to the devs, and we are NOT asking for much, all it is, is just tell us if its happening or not. We're doing that. We are telling the devs that. Like every day. The fact that you're not getting the result you want, is not proof we are not doing our jobs, because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. We can't answer those questions for you. All we can do is tell CCP they need to answer those questions for you. And then it's up to them to actually do it. Hey Soraya I think you guys should publicise your Biomassed pod cast - youtube videos more man. Many things I didn't know about have been talked about during those podcasts and I noticed barely anyone even knows about them. Sure some people dont care enough to sit through an hour of you guys chatting but I quite like having a listen while I eat dinner or do other things. My point is I am sure the community would at least be happy to know that there are those podcasts to hear about your guys feelings on things and stuff you have been doing. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3536	Posted - 2014.09.23 12:58:00 - [31] - Quote CommanderBolt, we do need to get out and promote that a bit more. I also need to publish this weekend's episode at some point too. :/ CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3348	Posted - 2014.09.23 14:09:00 - [32] - Quote Dust has a podcast? I'm in the process of getting my ps3 back is it worth running into You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3540	Posted - 2014.09.23 14:13:00 - [33] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Dust has a podcast? I'm in the process of getting my ps3 back is it worth running into www.biomassed.net We do a show every weekend. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3348	Posted - 2014.09.23 14:17:00 - [34] - Quote Hmmm I shall check it out tonight. I guess we have one half decent cpm at the moment =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3541	Posted - 2014.09.23 15:20:00 - [35] - Quote We often have at least one other CPM member on, though as I co-host of the show, I'm the one who's always on. Usually it's just discussion of recent announcements and upcoming hotfixes. The one thing I do mention on the show that we're doing a poor job of not also getting to the forums on text, is I note when we have meetings with CCP developers, although we obviously don't discuss or talk about the content of those meetings. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4747	Posted - 2014.09.26 11:28:00 - [36] - Quote Listen to the Crossing Zebras episode CSM 9 Report: Week 20. CCP Falcon and CCP LiLu were on talking about the recent summer summit. They just go on and on and on about being open with the player base. It made me sick. I wish someone would kick down the door of whatever dungeon the Legion Devs are working in and place a stereo 10x louder than an ACDC concert and play CCP Falcon's comments on a loop all the way up to Eve Vegas. Perhaps by then they'll find a way use some form of communication to update the Dust/Legion playerbase. Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3260	Posted - 2014.09.26 16:55:00 - [37] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Dust has a podcast? I'm in the process of getting my ps3 back is it worth running into www.biomassed.net We do a show every weekend. I want to be a guest star. Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun... Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9553	Posted - 2014.09.26 18:47:00 - [38] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Listen to the Crossing Zebras episode CSM 9 Report: Week 20. CCP Falcon and CCP LiLu were on talking about the recent summer summit. They just go on and on and on about being open with the player base. It made me sick. I wish someone would kick down the door of whatever dungeon the Legion Devs are working in and place a stereo 10x louder than an ACDC concert and play CCP Falcon's comments on a loop all the way up to Eve Vegas. Perhaps by then they'll find a way use some form of communication to update the Dust/Legion playerbase. The hamsters would not be pleased to see that they have to work extra hard to provide power to such a large piece of equipment. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9553	Posted - 2014.09.26 18:48:00 - [39] - Quote Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3314	Posted - 2014.09.27 04:54:00 - [40] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Dust has a podcast? I'm in the process of getting my ps3 back is it worth running into www.biomassed.net We do a show every weekend. I want to be a guest star. I would like to see this, send a message over skype if you're serious, http://evil-guide.tripod.com/

ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3273	Posted - 2014.09.29 14:53:00 - [41] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Dust has a podcast? I'm in the process of getting my ps3 back is it worth running into www.biomassed.net We do a show every weekend. I want to be a guest star. I would like to see this, send a message over skype if you're serious, will do o7 edit whats your Skype? Selling ISK for $$$. Message me for details
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3317	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:35:00 - [42] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Killar-12 wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Dust has a podcast? I'm in the process of getting my ps3 back is it worth running into www.biomassed.net We do a show every weekend. I want to be a guest star. I would like to see this, send a message over skype if you're serious, will do o7 edit whats your Skype? that.guy124 or if you have Soraya, Jaysyn or Pokey they could see about getting you on... and you missed the golden opportunity, last night was a PC episode... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 321	Posted - 2014.10.01 11:29:00 - [43] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Ghural wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one: The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs). As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs. As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid). So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around. By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault. Don't you think it's a little silly to explain the actions of someone who is actually a participant in this thread? Also, it is the role of the CPM to talk to the players. go read the CPM white paper.
Kincate Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 77	Posted - 2014.10.02 11:05:00 - [44] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Ghural wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one: The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs). As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs. As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid). So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around. By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault. Fox you are going about this the wrong way. Start a riot, give CCP some headlines then Hilmar can issue an "apology" and say they are going to keep the community up to date. Done. CCP gets their headlines, we get info, everyone is a winner. 1st Legionhare
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3409	Posted - 2014.10.02 11:32:00 - [45] - Quote I think ccp wants to stay out of the headlines for a while, negative press is damaging in an over saturated market You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4453	Posted - 2014.10.02 15:01:00 - [46] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Ghural wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one: The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs). As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs. As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid). So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around. By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault. LISTEN! WITH AN E! Of all the words, it had to be one that was repeated and highlighted. When I training to be a Cartographer one of our major projects was to produce a Topographic map of a major city. One of my classmates spent 3 months on a map of IcelandGÇÖs capital city, and never noticed that he had spelt the name of the city wrong in the map tittle. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4453	Posted - 2014.10.02 15:11:00 - [47] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Hey Soraya I think you guys should publicise your Biomassed pod cast - youtube videos more man. Many things I didn't know about have been talked about during those podcasts and I noticed barely anyone even knows about them. Sure some people dont care enough to sit through an hour of you guys chatting but I quite like having a listen while I eat dinner or do other things. My point is I am sure the community would at least be happy to know that there are those podcasts to hear about your guys feelings on things and stuff you have been doing. The more I listen to those podcasts the more I feel I should have put Pokey as the first choice on my voting list rather than my 4th choice. That is my only real regret regarding the CPM1 election. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3892	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:25:00 - [48] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: The more I listen to those podcasts the more I feel I should have put Pokey as the first choice on my voting list rather than my 4th choice. That is my only real regret regarding the CPM1 election. I'm really hoping Pokey runs again and gets a spot on CPM2. His boundless optimism might even survive a full term as CPM. Might. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 586	Posted - 2014.10.04 18:54:00 - [49] - Quote Keep the forum open, but make use of it. If the truth is that Legion is under full development, with the majority of the dev team from Dust, then start sharing stuff with us. There has been no official announcement of a green light but there are sticky threads from CCP Z, CCP Wolfman and CCP Ankou asking for feedback and sharing basic concepts for Legion. Some of them even have screenshots of the market menu. So obviously it is green lighted right? The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 384	Posted - 2014.10.04 20:52:00 - [50] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Keep the forum open, but make use of it. If the truth is that Legion is under full development, with the majority of the dev team from Dust, then start sharing stuff with us. There has been no official announcement of a green light but there are sticky threads from CCP Z, CCP Wolfman and CCP Ankou asking for feedback and sharing basic concepts for Legion. Some of them even have screenshots of the market menu. So obviously it is green lighted right? 15th October... In the beginning...

137H4RGIC Bloodline Rebellion Public.Disorder. 248	Posted - 2014.10.06 20:38:00 - [51] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: sabre prime wrote: Keep the forum open, but make use of it. If the truth is that Legion is under full development, with the majority of the dev team from Dust, then start sharing stuff with us. There has been no official announcement of a green light but there are sticky threads from CCP Z, CCP Wolfman and CCP Ankou asking for feedback and sharing basic concepts for Legion. Some of them even have screenshots of the market menu. So obviously it is green lighted right? 15th October... there is nothing in the eve Vegas itinerary that mentions anything about dust 514 or project Legion. EVE players? Good at Dust?! Let the indiscriminate slaughter of PC huggers begin >:)
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 456	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:21:00 - [52] - Quote Lol, this whole forum was a big troll. It will ultimately be used for the DUST keynote 2015 when CCP will announce that Legion has gone tango uniform. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 229	Posted - 2014.10.13 12:01:00 - [53] - Quote Does anybody know how long it typically takes to take a development far enough for the publisher to greenlight it or drop it? I mean, I think its a considerable investment to employ a whole studio so long without some promise of pay-off. How did they do it with WoD? The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Ankbar Latrommi Until thee End RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2014.10.13 13:35:00 - [54] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: 15th October... I would prefer to remember the 5th of November... CSM, IMH&HO...CCP has not earned your adherance to the NDA. Yeah yeah, legal blah blah...I'll leave that to you to weigh for yourself. But if they don't want information flowing from you, then it should flow from them. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4151	Posted - 2014.10.13 14:17:00 - [55] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: CSM, IMH&HO...CCP has not earned your adherance to the NDA. Yeah yeah, legal blah blah...I'll leave that to you to weigh for yourself. But if they don't want information flowing from you, then it should flow from them. CPM. And the whole point of an NDA, is that they don't have to "earn adherence". They have it by nature of an ironclad legal contract. And as I work in the tech industry, where confidentiality is a huge requirement, breaking a legal NDA would affect my career. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3338	Posted - 2014.10.13 16:38:00 - [56] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: 15th October... I would prefer to remember the 5th of November... CSM, IMH&HO...CCP has not earned your adherance to the NDA. Yeah yeah, legal blah blah...I'll leave that to you to weigh for yourself. But if they don't want information flowing from you, then it should flow from them. Sorry, getting sued and having your career ruined might be worth it... just not for CCP and not for DUST/Legion... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
zzZaXxx The Exemplars 689	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:38:00 - [57] - Quote The continuing existence of this forum still offends me.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3841	Posted - 2014.12.06 18:10:00 - [58] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: yes it, its a perfect reason to get rid of the forum, if there is nothing go on get rid of this section, beucase right now anything CCP posts about legion is going to be met with a wall of hate, even if its god gift to gaming because of repeated 3 ******* years of CCP bullshit Idk what people are expecting. Legion will be the same as dust just for pc instead. And everything we've done on dust will probably be lost (money spent on AUR). Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
zzZaXxx The Exemplars 693	Posted - 2014.12.07 06:49:00 - [59] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: yes it, its a perfect reason to get rid of the forum, if there is nothing go on get rid of this section, beucase right now anything CCP posts about legion is going to be met with a wall of hate, even if its god gift to gaming because of repeated 3 ******* years of CCP bullshit Idk what people are expecting. Legion will be the same as dust just for pc instead. And everything we've done on dust will probably be lost (money spent on AUR). Nah what reason have they to go back on their word? Unless they fail to make proper hi-low-null sec areas. If they don't fail, then all the people starting the game will have hi/low areas to grind in while we'll be hunger gaming for supremacy in null sec.
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1841	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:21:00 - [60] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The fact that there's nothing to discuss right now is not a reason to remove the discussion. There has never BEEN anything to discuss on the Legion forums. The horror! The horror! ( -íº -£-û -íº)



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