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zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
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Posted - 2014.09.19 16:16:00 -
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If you're not going to respond to anything or even give any sign that you're reading any of the ideas presented, then please take down this Project Legion General Discussion forum. There's nothing to discuss right now. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3432
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Posted - 2014.09.19 16:39:00 -
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The fact that there's nothing to discuss right now is not a reason to remove the discussion.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3339
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Posted - 2014.09.19 17:41:00 -
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yes it, its a perfect reason to get rid of the forum, if there is nothing go on get rid of this section, beucase right now anything CCP posts about legion is going to be met with a wall of hate, even if its god gift to gaming because of repeated 3 ******* years of CCP bullshit
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:21:00 -
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Soraya what is this forum for then? |
SuperMido
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:28:00 -
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I just gotta say, you CPMs, you all SUCK! Because your main purpose is to voice our opinions and requests to the devs, and we are NOT asking for much, all it is, is just tell us if its happening or not. Fine we dont need details. But is the project still a go?? Will we be seeing something in the near future? Has the project been put on hold for now, and will be resumed sometime? Has it been cancelled?? Simple a$$ questions here.... |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:39:00 -
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Or green lit... As it is we may as well have been sold up in the river on a dream of a game they may not happen. Sure we are still playing dust but if this silence continues that may change. People won't stay with a limited product indeffinatly.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:57:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Soraya what is this forum for then?
Discussing about something that might happen. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3436
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:52:00 -
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SuperMido wrote:I just gotta say, you CPMs, you all SUCK!
:'(
SuperMido wrote:Because your main purpose is to voice our opinions and requests to the devs, and we are NOT asking for much, all it is, is just tell us if its happening or not.
We're doing that. We are telling the devs that. Like every day. The fact that you're not getting the result you want, is not proof we are not doing our jobs, because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. We can't answer those questions for you. All we can do is tell CCP they need to answer those questions for you. And then it's up to them to actually do it.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Hector Carson
Hellz Gate of Awakening
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Posted - 2014.09.20 00:38:00 -
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As of right now I believe project legion is dead
But even if it weren't would it still be free to play on PC? and also why not just put everything from legion into dust instead of wasting all that money making another pointless game?
Dust 514 is not a failure they just need to focus all efforts on it, I believe it can be resurrected. And another thing get off the CPM's back there doing there best to do what we are asking, so many people play this game they can't answer everyone at once.
I like this game a lot, I don't want to see a good game die.
A Corp free of conflict HGoA
Ticker: 42014
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
369
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Posted - 2014.09.20 00:44:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:As of right now I believe project legion is dead
But even if it weren't would it still be free to play on PC? and also why not just put everything from legion into dust instead of wasting all that money making another pointless game?
Dust 514 is not a failure they just need to focus all efforts on it, I believe it can be resurrected. And another thing get off the CPM's back there doing there best to do what we are asking, so many people play this game they can't answer everyone at once.
I like this game a lot, I don't want to see a good game die.
Be aware that the medium the game lives on -the PS3- is also dying.
AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
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Hector Carson
Hellz Gate of Awakening
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Posted - 2014.09.20 00:55:00 -
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True it is, but only if we let it
A Corp free of conflict HGoA
Ticker: 42014
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.20 03:04:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:The fact that there's nothing to discuss right now is not a reason to remove the discussion.
It kind of is. |
Ghural
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
318
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Posted - 2014.09.20 04:30:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you.
Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4873
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Posted - 2014.09.20 05:09:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you.
Probably not quite what you meant (I hope).
Oh I'm sure that's exactly what he meant. And it is his non-paying job, entirely to talk to CCP and not to you. You elected him to do whatever the hell he pleased and the only binding part of that agreement is what he does with CCP.
Now, if he wanted to get elected again he would probably be doing things in his power to keep the people happy... such as talking to them. As he has taken the position of being an ass (which I respect, actually) this is clearly not his desire.
If I were elected the absolute last thing I would do is go to this dumbass community for an opinion. I mean his is worse, but at least he guards it well. That's about half the battle. |
Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
369
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Posted - 2014.09.20 08:54:00 -
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To be honest, the CPM are getting flack because of factors outside their control: Because they are under a binding Non Disclosure Agreement, they can't tell us; they can't spill the beans on CCP's project even if we or they want those beans spilled.
Basically, it's not CPM's fault they can't tell you what you want to know.
AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
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Isaa Quade
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
589
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Posted - 2014.09.20 14:18:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Hector Carson wrote:As of right now I believe project legion is dead
But even if it weren't would it still be free to play on PC? and also why not just put everything from legion into dust instead of wasting all that money making another pointless game?
Dust 514 is not a failure they just need to focus all efforts on it, I believe it can be resurrected. And another thing get off the CPM's back there doing there best to do what we are asking, so many people play this game they can't answer everyone at once.
I like this game a lot, I don't want to see a good game die. Be aware that the medium the game lives on -the PS3- is also dying.
So then they should port it to PS4 like we asked them to.
My reaction to Legion
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
370
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Posted - 2014.09.20 15:23:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:True it is, but only if we let it
No, no... Nothing we can do can stop the PS3 from going to the big scrapyard in the sky. It's just like with the Xbox (the original), the PS1 & PS2, the not quite there Xbox 360...
And all those other consoles like the Game Cube, Gameboy, and the PSP. Times move on; technology and the people that use it will go with it.
AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3442
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:06:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Now, if he wanted to get elected again he would probably be doing things in his power to keep the people happy... such as talking to them. As he has taken the position of being an ass (which I respect, actually) this is clearly not his desire.
The inherent point, is that it is NOT within my power to tell you more things about Legion. Not only is it not my job, I'm legally forbidden from doing it. And yes, our job is primarily a one way communication, to take what we hear in the community, and talk to CCP about it.
I'm not really planning on running for reelection anyhow, provided at least one other CPM1 member is running next time around to carry through the body of experience.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:13:00 -
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Sorya I think that there is why you are fighting a losing a battle here. It would be better to say i have informed ccp for more information and leave at that. If cant/won't say then don't alude to it just flat out say don't no.
Not saying how to ur job as cpm but people are a lot more forgiving im all lines of life of the phrase "don't know".
But for real the community basicly assumes legion is dead at this point and I don't think the cpm acutal know anymore than us =ƒÿÉ
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4304
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Posted - 2014.09.22 18:12:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you.
Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one:
The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs).
As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs.
As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid).
So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around.
By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4306
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Posted - 2014.09.22 18:23:00 -
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The question of the day is, would it be a violation of the NDA to tell us: a)Whether Legion is still being worked on? b)What level of effort is being put into Legion development? c)How many Devs are working on Legion?
It is clear that CCP do not want to tell us about what they are developing in Legion at this time. Hopefully that is because they want to dazzle us with their progress in the (hopefully near) future. However, maybe they could tell us about the effort they are putting into the development, even if they donGÇÖt want to tell us what they are actually doing.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3342
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Posted - 2014.09.22 19:17:00 -
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NDAs are normally so bad you cant even admit to what you know, even if its admitting you know nothing thats still in breach of a NDA (i have some really interesting jobs in my time :P)
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3476
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Posted - 2014.09.22 19:34:00 -
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Definitely can't say how many devs. Staffing/HR stuff isn't even in our purview to really ask about. I'd definitely like CCP to be more open with the community about Legion's development progress, and we'll keep bringing that up with CCP.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3344
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Posted - 2014.09.22 19:40:00 -
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we just want the old banter back we dont feel loved anymore :(
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3483
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Posted - 2014.09.22 20:12:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:we just want the old banter back we dont feel loved anymore :(
:'(
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
374
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:31:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:we just want the old banter back we dont feel loved anymore :(
Yeah, come to think of it...
A simple "X" would be sufficient...
AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
374
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:33:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Ghural wrote:Soraya Xel wrote: , because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you.
Probably not quite what you meant (I hope). Since I am supposedly good at explaining things, let me try to explain this one: The CPM members are elected to LISTIN to the Players and TALK to the Devs. They are only responsible for ensuring information flows in one direction (from the players to the Devs). As part of their listening duties the CPM may talk to players in order to elicit feedback on a specific subject or to get more context around player complaints so that they can LISTIN to that feedback and gain a greater understand of what they are hearing. That allows them to better explain the playerGÇÖs needs and concerns to the Devs. As part of their talking duties the CPM may actually listen to the Devs in order to determine what the Devs plan to do, so that they can then provide informed feedback on what the Devs are planning on doing (tell Devs when a stupid idea is stupid). So yes, the CPM do talk to players (about player concerns) and they do listen to Devs (about what the Devs are thinking about doing), but when it comes to the transfer of information the CPM is only responsible for ensuring that information travels from the Players to the Devs, not the other way around. By default the CPM is not allowed to tell players anything now about what is happening in Development. They canGÇÖt comment until CCP announces something officially. They do however lobby heavily to get CCP to provide more information to the Players. If CCP decides not to provide information to the players it is not the CPMGÇÖs fault.
LISTEN! WITH AN E! Of all the words, it had to be one that was repeated and highlighted.
AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
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Hector Carson
Hellz Gate of Awakening
19
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:36:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Hector Carson wrote:True it is, but only if we let it No, no... Nothing we can do can stop the PS3 from going to the big scrapyard in the sky. It's just like with the Xbox (the original), the PS1 & PS2, the not quite there Xbox 360... And all those other consoles like the Game Cube, Gameboy, and the PSP. Times move on; technology and the people that use it will go with it.
This is an example of a negative person
A Corp free of conflict HGoA
Ticker: 42014
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
374
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Posted - 2014.09.23 06:19:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Hector Carson wrote:True it is, but only if we let it No, no... Nothing we can do can stop the PS3 from going to the big scrapyard in the sky. It's just like with the Xbox (the original), the PS1 & PS2, the not quite there Xbox 360... And all those other consoles like the Game Cube, Gameboy, and the PSP. Times move on; technology and the people that use it will go with it. This is an example of a negative person
No, this is an example of a realist, not a pessimist.
AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
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CommanderBolt
TerranProtossZerg
1719
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Posted - 2014.09.23 09:02:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:SuperMido wrote:I just gotta say, you CPMs, you all SUCK! :'( SuperMido wrote:Because your main purpose is to voice our opinions and requests to the devs, and we are NOT asking for much, all it is, is just tell us if its happening or not. We're doing that. We are telling the devs that. Like every day. The fact that you're not getting the result you want, is not proof we are not doing our jobs, because our jobs are to talk to CCP, not to you. We can't answer those questions for you. All we can do is tell CCP they need to answer those questions for you. And then it's up to them to actually do it.
Hey Soraya I think you guys should publicise your Biomassed pod cast - youtube videos more man. Many things I didn't know about have been talked about during those podcasts and I noticed barely anyone even knows about them.
Sure some people dont care enough to sit through an hour of you guys chatting but I quite like having a listen while I eat dinner or do other things.
My point is I am sure the community would at least be happy to know that there are those podcasts to hear about your guys feelings on things and stuff you have been doing.
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