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Posted - 2014.09.19 03:34:00 -
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Are Anti-Vehicle weapons (read: SLs, FGs, PLCs, & R/PEs) meant to "solo" vehicles?
I'd really love to have CCP settle this issue already.
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Posted - 2014.09.19 13:10:00 -
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Bump.
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Posted - 2014.09.19 13:45:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Your question is a black and white fallacy: either one AV player can or cannot take on a vehicle.
It could only be a false dilemma if I omitted a possible alternative, which I indeed did not. Either Anti-Vehicle weapons were designed to be able to effectively destroy vehicles themselves, or they were designed to be used in groups.
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:
If a single AV player could easily kill a vehicle, then vehicles would be worthless once 2-3 players used AV.
As they should be. Any unit facing off against 2-3 hard counters should be rendered useless.
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:It's a balancing game, and vehicles should have a slight edge.
I'll let CCP Rattati be the judge of that.
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Posted - 2014.09.19 13:53:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Currently, it is possible for a single player to solo a single vehicle given proper skills and situations. I should know, I do it sometimes.
Unfortunately, the only current way to do that requires a forge gun. Swarms (pre buff) and PLC are just not capable of doing that.
Maybe it's the Commando, but I myself have soloed many vehicles with a Swarm Launcher, though most of them are Madrugars and Un-Hardened Gunnlogies. But to do so, you need to invest Heavily into it, as well as know how/when to delay a volley's flight.
RayRay James wrote:The thing is, I'm not sure they should. Forge is a heavy weapon, the rest are light. Heavy weapons should be a major threat to all vehicles. Light's should need at least two people, imo.
Then why would anyone choose anything other than a Forge Gun?
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:36:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:I solo tanks allll duh time
As do I, but that's not relevant to the question at hand.
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Posted - 2014.09.19 19:41:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:RayRay James wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:RayRay James wrote:A tank or ADS can run away from my forge suit with no problems, not so with a scout and a swarm launcher. A vehicle on the run travels much faster than the fastest Scout. - Scout w/Swarm Launcher True, but you can give chase better than a heavy on foot Any suit who chases a dropship on foot is incurably stupid.
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Posted - 2014.09.19 22:56:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:
It seems to me that you were posing two realities: either a single AV could *easily kill vehicles or it was worthless. I propose that you are looking at it wrong, that there could be some "middle ground" to the relationship of AV and vehicles besides one killing or not killing the other, namely driving off a vehicle and denying their presence for extended times.
If you read my post and saw "easily kill" then you need to either re-read the original post or enroll into a grade school, as you clearly lack the ability to read basic sentences.
If a vehicle (or any item) is not dying, but being pushed off then you have a situation where the Pilot is not loosing or risking any ISK, which effectively makes their vehicle free, along with removing any reason to field AV over a Vehicle.
Not only that, but why would anyone (barring blueberries) invest heavily into a role that would still require to another player to actually get a kill when they can invest lightly into a Vehicle and be (literally) twice as efficent?
No FC in all of DUST will let you on your team if you can't actually kill something, as you'll be a liability compared to the other options available, such as an HAV/ADS.
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Yes, and that's currently the case now: multiple competent AV can deny vehicles the field (in more or less most situations). But what you're asking is for a single player to play the part of 2-3 people, and if that's the case then vehicles are pretty much useless no matter what AV is on the field.
This statement assumes that destroying vehicles is reserved solely for multiple units, which until said otherwise by CCP, is false. A vehicle's ability to transport troops as well as slay Infantry will make them useful regardless of whether or not AV can solo them.
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Posted - 2014.09.20 16:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:That is their purpose
Source?
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