DUST Search - Rattati nerfs Skill by nerfing asset.

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Nothing Certain wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Just to make one point, I tried all night to just play swarm AV. Proto swarms, not full skills, triple dmg mods.

I lost more suits than I have ever lost in a night, and I didn't kill a single dropship, nor a tank. One time I swear the ADS wagged at me as I launched the 3 death swarm, turned around and blasted away and came back to kill me.

Admittedly, not the best AVer out there, but, it's not only about not being able to kill vehicles, it's all the times I am trying to chase a double hit dropship or HAV, and get shot by any other infantry. I died 50% from not being able to defend my self against infantry, and the rest by blaster tanks or missile turret ads's.

Militia swarms being a threat is class A bs.

I have to admit that picturing this gave me a chuckle. I run an ADV Minassault, protoswarm no dmg mods. I run an ASMG w/CPX dmg instead. I kill lots of tanks, I usually feel it is a fair matchup, they also kill me a lot. Dropships are a bit too easy to kill, except Pythons. You can't kill a Python even doing everything right, he has to do something wrong. The frustration is getting them with a sliver of life left, on fire, and they just fly away and come back fully healed right away. Two or three runs and I have no choice but to dance on hives trying to reload while he is shooting at me.

I hear people recommend Commando, Mincommando especially, for swarming. I have an alt. fit for this but don't like it. Yes, I hit harder but I lose too much speed and mobility and most of all grenades. A tank or an LAV can see you swarm, drive up to you well before you can seriously hurt him, and then blast you or hop out with an HMG. The ASMG lets me win a few of those but the grenades are my only chance of getting the vehicle kill and probably that is how I get most of them. No grenades, no kill.

Agreed, Assault is probably the most efficient swarm hunter for me. Maybe an Amarr logi with a sidearm, hives and AV grenades but I don't have a single SP in Amarr and am not going to. My swarm/plc galmando was not good enough w/o grenades and slow, and no AV grenades. A tank hit by 2 swarms may get greedy and come after you and then you pop with grenades.


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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 312	Posted - 2014.09.19 10:50:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Just to make one point, I tried all night to just play swarm AV. Proto swarms, not full skills, triple dmg mods. I lost more suits than I have ever lost in a night, and I didn't kill a single dropship, nor a tank. One time I swear the ADS wagged at me as I launched the 3 death swarm, turned around and blasted away and came back to kill me. Admittedly, not the best AVer out there, but, it's not only about not being able to kill vehicles, it's all the times I am trying to chase a double hit dropship or HAV, and get shot by any other infantry. I died 50% from not being able to defend my self against infantry, and the rest by blaster tanks or missile turret ads's. Militia swarms being a threat is class A bs. I have to admit that picturing this gave me a chuckle. I run an ADV Minassault, protoswarm no dmg mods. I run an ASMG w/CPX dmg instead. I kill lots of tanks, I usually feel it is a fair matchup, they also kill me a lot. Dropships are a bit too easy to kill, except Pythons. You can't kill a Python even doing everything right, he has to do something wrong. The frustration is getting them with a sliver of life left, on fire, and they just fly away and come back fully healed right away. Two or three runs and I have no choice but to dance on hives trying to reload while he is shooting at me. I hear people recommend Commando, Mincommando especially, for swarming. I have an alt. fit for this but don't like it. Yes, I hit harder but I lose too much speed and mobility and most of all grenades. A tank or an LAV can see you swarm, drive up to you well before you can seriously hurt him, and then blast you or hop out with an HMG. The ASMG lets me win a few of those but the grenades are my only chance of getting the vehicle kill and probably that is how I get most of them. No grenades, no kill. Agreed, Assault is probably the most efficient swarm hunter for me. Maybe an Amarr logi with a sidearm, hives and AV grenades but I don't have a single SP in Amarr and am not going to. My swarm/plc galmando was not good enough w/o grenades and slow, and no AV grenades. A tank hit by 2 swarms may get greedy and come after you and then you pop with grenades. Assault or logi as swarm plattform? Thats lolworthy at best cause when you go AV you want to avoid infantry at all cost. You should run a scout with a cloak, nanohive and a swarm launcher. Thing is you can decloak when the ADS is not looking at you and start firing swarms into it. When it gets away just reload your swarm and use your cloak again. The ADS will have no way to spot you and you can repeat this without loosing suits. You can argue about a commando caus it can defend itself but the downside is every 1 can see you. The dropship can, the infantry can and as soon you fire swarms it attracts huge attention from infantry. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!