I know its pathetic man ive been feeling your pain for a while man, and how could this all be fixed? Making these COD tryhards understand nothing kills tanks or dropships better than a tank or a dropship.

But I almost always forget they don't want to spec into their own tank or dropship they want easy mode AV and run off to a supply depot one the threat is taken care of an imedetly go back to proto stomping the majority of players that consist of lower than 5mil SP. (my guess is about 60%) from all my time playing

Just to make one point, I tried all night to just play swarm AV. Proto swarms, not full skills, triple dmg mods.

I lost more suits than I have ever lost in a night, and I didn't kill a single dropship, nor a tank. One time I swear the ADS wagged at me as I launched the 3 death swarm, turned around and blasted away and came back to kill me.

Admittedly, not the best AVer out there, but, it's not only about not being able to kill vehicles, it's all the times I am trying to chase a double hit dropship or HAV, and get shot by any other infantry. I died 50% from not being able to defend my self against infantry, and the rest by blaster tanks or missile turret ads's.

Militia swarms being a threat is class A bs.

Which is why we've decided to nerf the HMG. Looking back, we probably should've designed it differently; we didn't realize it'd be so easy to use and so powerful. Oh well!

- CCP

New HMG Design Goals:

Teamwork!
The new HMG is all about squad play! Focused fire from two will suffice to kill almost any infantry. Individually it will be good at laying down suppressing fire, not unlike a Heavy Machine Gun! We expect Sentinels to find satisfaction in knowing they're keeping the enemy away.

Fairness!
Many infantry have expressed concerns about HMG range, so we'll be reducing it by three quarters. We'll also be reducing magazine size by 40% in exchange for faster HMG spool up time! So you can get to suppressing faster!

Easy!
We understand that these are big changes and that Heavies don't have many anti-infantry options. But don't feel bad! Its so easy use!

Agreed, Assault is probably the most efficient swarm hunter for me. Maybe an Amarr logi with a sidearm, hives and AV grenades but I don't have a single SP in Amarr and am not going to. My swarm/plc galmando was not good enough w/o grenades and slow, and no AV grenades. A tank hit by 2 swarms may get greedy and come after you and then you pop with grenades.

I look forward to seeing Rattati piloting to see what it's like from our POV. Y'know, s it's actually unbiased and not entirely biased by focusing on only one side of the argument.

Tell me, why should you're 2k swarms be able to do anymore than detour my 1m dropship?

Well, I actually don't think the current proposal is terrible, but there is a great bias towards the Swarms present in every discussion about ADS/AV balance which I wouikd really like to see be balanced out by having the dev responsible having actual experience own ADS.