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Ripley Riley wrote:

steadyhand amarr wrote:

Tech I agree with your points perfectly valid. However that nda is the very thing that makes cpm a poor sauce for info because it means any info is on a time lag or cpm have to plane make stuff up. And or ccp is out right not keeping them informed.

CPM is meant to push our opinions and feelings as players to CCP, not be a source of Dust 514-related news. Sure, they sometimes end up being sources of information, but that's usually by accident. Soraya Xel has said as much.

steadyhand amarr wrote:

Put another way the only evidence we have legion is been worked on is something a non ccp employee said on irc. Which is about as valid as me saying it's not been worked on. Expect my argument has more weight as no one can show me ANY evidence that it is to prove me wrong.

No, actually, your word vs. a CPM officer's word are two completely different things. CPM talks to CCP, directly, on a daily basis via email, conference calls, Skype, etc. Your "argument" has precisely no weight on the topic of "Is Legion still being worked on?" Theirs does. I'm 100% positive the NDA prevents them from being able to tell us what exactly is being worked on though, which is sad.

If you want to confirm this just ask a CPM officer. I have no doubt they can confirm it for you. Don't ask for specifics because you won't get that. Specifics will need to come from CCP. I would watch Eve Vegas and Fanfest 2015 to see what they have been working on exactly.

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Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2048	Posted - 2014.09.17 22:29:00 - [1] - Quote Proof? Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4119	Posted - 2014.09.17 22:33:00 - [2] - Quote Because he's gallente (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 28	Posted - 2014.09.17 22:35:00 - [3] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Proof? Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? he has a suit just not a bpo.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3460	Posted - 2014.09.18 02:18:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Because he's #MasterRace Fixed.
Mike De Luca STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME 311	Posted - 2014.09.18 02:33:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Because he's #MasterRace Fixed. sniff sniff yup, that's bs what i think of when charging fg
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 661	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:05:00 - [6] - Quote Why do we not have a rattati monument? Where's my rattati sexy time blow up doll? Why isnt religion based off of rattati? I'm so helpful.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1151	Posted - 2014.09.18 08:23:00 - [7] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Proof? Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? Because a machine works best when all the cogs are in their correct places. Rattatai might be a round cog,but rouges job might require a square one. Rattatai fits where he is,but after some time he could possibly fit elsewhere. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7587	Posted - 2014.09.18 08:25:00 - [8] - Quote Confirming that Rattati is the only Dev I like left in this cruel world of New Eden.... everyone else seems to have been executed. Something's wrong when you regret Things that haven't happened yet
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.09.18 11:12:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Confirming that Rattati is the only Dev I like left in this cruel world of New Eden.... everyone else seems to have been executed. nah they keep logi bro because right before they were going to fire him he modified the ban system so only he could work it.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3190	Posted - 2014.09.18 12:14:00 - [10] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Rattati is waiting for his time to strike. When his agents are in place... Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Rouge is but a pawn in Rattati's elaborate game. Rattati allows Rouge to live. We are not permitted to know why at this time. Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? That BPO would be too OP for anyone to fit; what with the innate 100HP/sec armor repair, flight, nanohive resupply aura, and 2,000 per hit melee strikes. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2059	Posted - 2014.09.18 12:58:00 - [11] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Rattati is waiting for his time to strike. When his agents are in place... Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Rouge is but a pawn in Rattati's elaborate game. Rattati allows Rouge to live. We are not permitted to know why at this time. Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? That BPO would be too OP for anyone to fit; what with the innate 100HP/sec armor repair, flight, nanohive resupply aura, and 2,000 per hit melee strikes. I sense the onset of a "Rattati Facts" list a la Chuck Norris. The Earth rotates because it is trying to run from Rattati. CCP doesn't hotfix DUST. DUST hotfixes itself when Rattati looks at it menacingly. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3191	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:19:00 - [12] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I sense the onset of a "Rattati Facts" list a la Chuck Norris. CCP Rattati's dropsuit is a Falchion, his light weapon is a Boundless HMG, his sidearm is a small missile turret, and his grenade is a warbarge strike. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3333	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:25:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Proof? Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? First one ego hilmar still acts like he did nothing wrong and we are just ungrateful gamers. Last too is because legion has been shelved or outright canceled You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3191	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:30:00 - [14] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Last two is because Legion has been shelved or outright canceled Got a source to back this up? Silence isn't a source, by the way. I spoke with CPM middle of last week and they confirmed Legion is still being actively worked on. Has something changed since then? He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16459	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:54:00 - [15] - Quote Game desingers typically make for terrible business people. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Railgun =// Unlocked
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5700	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:58:00 - [16] - Quote Still people are going on about promises that were never actually made as well, ever. CCP has done nothing but project hopes and wishful thinking, not once a promise. Can anyone link me a video where CCP actually says "We promise such and such, we promise this and that". Well that was spiffing!.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3333	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:03:00 - [17] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Last two is because Legion has been shelved or outright canceled Got a source to back this up? Silence isn't a source, by the way. Anything interpreted from dev silence is 100% conjecture. I spoke with CPM middle of last week and they confirmed Legion is still being actively worked on. Has something changed since then? Going on ccp history here also cpm are not a trust worthy source (see lead up to fanfest). Legion might no be canned but clearly not been worked on as all this trouble and upset could be solved with typing X into any post on the legion fourm. If ccp have screwed up they bunker down stop posting and only start chating when it comes to damage control. When things go well u can't get them shut up. This is based off 3-4 years of dust and lurking in eve You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Immortal John Ripper 24701	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:09:00 - [18] - Quote Meee One wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Proof? Why is Hilmar still in charge of this company and not Rattati? Why is Rouge still in charge of Legion and not Rattati? Why does Rattati not yet have a BPO suit named after him? Because a machine works best when all the cogs are in their correct places. Rattatai might be a round cog,but rouges job might require a square one. Rattatai fits where he is,but after some time he could possibly fit elsewhere. Rouge is such a square indeed. Donating all scammed isk to needy Matari. Tell me your sad story for it.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3191	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:12:00 - [19] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Going on ccp history here also cpm are not a trust worthy source (see lead up to fanfest). Legion might not be canned but clearly not been worked on as all this trouble and upset could be solved with typing X into any post on the Legion forum. If ccp have screwed up they bunker down stop posting and only start chatting when it comes to damage control. When things go well you can't get them shut up. This is based off 3-4 years of dust and lurking in eve They were under an NDA... you know what that means, right? It's one of the conditions they must agree to in order to be CPM officers. They couldn't tell us about the Legion announcement. Period. That doesn't make them untrustworthy. I'm going to agree with you on the complete lack of information regarding Legion. That does not instill confidence in the players, but this does not mean that work on Legion has been halted. "3-4 years of Dust and Eve" translates to "one person's anecdotal evidence". If you have a source that can be quoted saying, 'Development on Legion has been slowed' or 'Legion's development staff has been cut in half' or something similar then link it. Otherwise, no one will believe what you say. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5701	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:25:00 - [20] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Going on ccp history here also cpm are not a trust worthy source (see lead up to fanfest). Legion might not be canned but clearly not been worked on as all this trouble and upset could be solved with typing X into any post on the Legion forum. If ccp have screwed up they bunker down stop posting and only start chatting when it comes to damage control. When things go well you can't get them shut up. This is based off 3-4 years of dust and lurking in eve They were under an NDA... you know what that means, right? It's one of the conditions they must agree to in order to be CPM officers. They couldn't tell us about the Legion announcement. Period. That doesn't make them untrustworthy. I'm going to agree with you on the complete lack of information regarding Legion. That does not instill confidence in the players, but this does not mean that work on Legion has been halted. "3-4 years of Dust and Eve" translates to "one person's anecdotal evidence". If you have a source that can be quoted saying, 'Development on Legion has been slowed' or 'Legion's development staff has been cut in half' or something similar then link it. Otherwise, no one will believe what you say. Its the same with the " CCP promised this" fence. They haven't actually promised anything. Well that was spiffing!.

Immortal John Ripper 24702	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:30:00 - [21] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Going on ccp history here also cpm are not a trust worthy source (see lead up to fanfest). Legion might not be canned but clearly not been worked on as all this trouble and upset could be solved with typing X into any post on the Legion forum. If ccp have screwed up they bunker down stop posting and only start chatting when it comes to damage control. When things go well you can't get them shut up. This is based off 3-4 years of dust and lurking in eve They were under an NDA... you know what that means, right? It's one of the conditions they must agree to in order to be CPM officers. They couldn't tell us about the Legion announcement. Period. That doesn't make them untrustworthy. I'm going to agree with you on the complete lack of information regarding Legion. That does not instill confidence in the players, but this does not mean that work on Legion has been halted. "3-4 years of Dust and Eve" translates to "one person's anecdotal evidence". If you have a source that can be quoted saying, 'Development on Legion has been slowed' or 'Legion's development staff has been cut in half' or something similar then link it. Otherwise, no one will believe what you say. Its the same with the " CCP promised this" fence. They haven't actually promised anything. They promised to give my character special nerfs because I am too op. I would like your post if I could but CCP nerfed my like button and took it away. :(
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4861	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:31:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game desingers typically make for terrible business people. Game designers typically make terrible game designers, as well. That's why you don't hire out of college. Majority of those idiots CAN'T know what makes a game good because they spent all of their youth pursuing academics instead of competition, yet expect to be the masters of all things related to it. Certified Fraudulence, really. And it only costs em 100 grand or so to put their name on it.
TheDarthMa94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 502	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:36:00 - [23] - Quote Ratati is love, Ratati is life Sith & Open Beta Vet. "People always telling me how lucky I am. But the truth is everything I touch turns to shit"
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3335	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:48:00 - [24] - Quote Tech I agree with your points perfectly valid. However that nda is the very thing that makes cpm a poor sauce for info because it means any info is on a time lag or cpm have to plane make stuff up. And or ccp is out right not keeping them informed. Sadly iv been burned to many times we got told lots of things for dust where coming and never did. Legion matches this pattern hook line and sinker. It's up ccp to prove it's been worked on not the other way round. Put another way the only evidence we have legion is been worked on is somthing a none ccp member said on irc. Which is about as valid as me saying it's not been worked on. Expect my argument has more weight as noone can show me ANY evadence that it is to prove me wrong. You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5701	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:58:00 - [25] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Tech I agree with your points perfectly valid. However that nda is the very thing that makes cpm a poor sauce for info because it means any info is on a time lag or cpm have to plane make stuff up. And or ccp is out right not keeping them informed. Sadly iv been burned to many times we got told lots of things for dust where coming and never did. Legion matches this pattern hook line and sinker. It's up ccp to prove it's been worked on not the other way round. Put another way the only evidence we have legion is been worked on is somthing a none ccp member said on irc. Which is about as valid as me saying it's not been worked on. Expect my argument has more weight as noone can show me ANY evadence that it is to prove me wrong. Fair point. Well that was spiffing!.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3203	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:00:00 - [26] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Tech I agree with your points perfectly valid. However that nda is the very thing that makes cpm a poor sauce for info because it means any info is on a time lag or cpm have to plane make stuff up. And or ccp is out right not keeping them informed. CPM is meant to push our opinions and feelings as players to CCP, not be a source of Dust 514-related news. Sure, they sometimes end up being sources of information, but that's usually by accident. Soraya Xel has said as much. steadyhand amarr wrote: Put another way the only evidence we have legion is been worked on is something a non ccp employee said on irc. Which is about as valid as me saying it's not been worked on. Expect my argument has more weight as no one can show me ANY evidence that it is to prove me wrong. No, actually, your word vs. a CPM officer's word are two completely different things. CPM talks to CCP, directly, on a daily basis via email, conference calls, Skype, etc. Your "argument" has precisely no weight on the topic of "Is Legion still being worked on?" Theirs does. I'm 100% positive the NDA prevents them from being able to tell us what exactly is being worked on though, which is sad. If you want to confirm this just ask a CPM officer. I have no doubt they can confirm it for you. Don't ask for specifics because you won't get that. Specifics will need to come from CCP. I would watch Eve Vegas and Fanfest 2015 to see what they have been working on exactly. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5701	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:04:00 - [27] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Tech I agree with your points perfectly valid. However that nda is the very thing that makes cpm a poor sauce for info because it means any info is on a time lag or cpm have to plane make stuff up. And or ccp is out right not keeping them informed. CPM is meant to push our opinions and feelings as players to CCP, not be a source of Dust 514-related news. Sure, they sometimes end up being sources of information, but that's usually by accident. Soraya Xel has said as much. steadyhand amarr wrote: Put another way the only evidence we have legion is been worked on is something a non ccp employee said on irc. Which is about as valid as me saying it's not been worked on. Expect my argument has more weight as no one can show me ANY evidence that it is to prove me wrong. No, actually, your word vs. a CPM officer's word are two completely different things. CPM talks to CCP, directly, on a daily basis via email, conference calls, Skype, etc. Your "argument" has precisely no weight on the topic of "Is Legion still being worked on?" Theirs does. I'm 100% positive the NDA prevents them from being able to tell us what exactly is being worked on though, which is sad. If you want to confirm this just ask a CPM officer. I have no doubt they can confirm it for you. Don't ask for specifics because you won't get that. Specifics will need to come from CCP. I would watch Eve Vegas and Fanfest 2015 to see what they have been working on exactly. If you ask the right questions, you will get the answer in a riddle. Well that was spiffing!.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3203	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:06:00 - [28] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: If you ask the right questions, you will get the answer in a riddle. Me: "Hey CPM, how's the Legion development coming along? Can we get a few screen captures or something?" CPM: "The tricky crow knows the sky is darkest just before 20:18..." Me: "I... excuse me?" CPM: "Exactly." He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5701	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:06:00 - [29] - Quote Sauces. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=heinz+ketchup&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=ReNRSb8ivoYUDM&tbnid=TwW8KJFEOElbIM:&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Flifeandstyle%2Fshortcuts%2F2013%2Fsep%2F16%2Ftomato-ketchup-heinz-sales -falling&ei=t_QaVNuEAqLG7Aas8IHwAg&psig=AFQjCNF5dxoph0IS6-Uw3ZxKNUxdntfTLw&ust=1411139116664972 Edit: I'm on my tablet, grrrr. Well that was spiffing!.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5701	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:07:00 - [30] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: If you ask the right questions, you will get the answer in a riddle. Me: "Hey CPM, how's the Legion development coming along? Can we get a few screen captures or something?" CPM: "The tricky crow knows the sky is darkest just before 20:18..." Me: "I... excuse me?" CPM: "Exactly." Lol, dig deeper. Well that was spiffing!.



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