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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.17 12:34:00 -
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All glory to Him, bringer of sales, PC Master Race.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 12:53:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:What i know, like many of us i will be that time lost in time like a tear in rain. All our ideas all money just for something what majority here probably don't touch in future. Its basically really sad story. I will be praying for another MAG on ps3 or ps4. But what i know i will never buy pc for legion. This is just sad, i thing time of massive playing died with MAG. Yup good ol' times.
I feel some sympathy for the console purists our there, but the fact is they are a minority of gamers nowadays. It's my sincerest hope that Legion is launched successfully on PC then, sometime later, CCP develops Legion for PS4. By the time they reach that point console gaming may be on it's deathbed so who knows.
Also, Legion will most likely be F2P on PC so you won't have to "buy it" at all.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:31:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:I feel some sympathy for the console purists our there, but the fact is they are a minority of gamers nowadays. It's my sincerest hope that Legion is launched successfully on PC then, sometime later, CCP develops Legion for PS4. By the time they reach that point console gaming may be on it's deathbed so who knows.
Also, Legion will most likely be F2P on PC so you won't have to "buy it" at all.
You Must be Delusional... [/quote]
About what, specifically? The minority of console gamers, Legion launching on PS4, or console gaming dying off?
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:51:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Console Gamers to be the Minority... I Have been Playing MP since late 90s. and I know a lot of MP Players and Groups all around the World... Except of games likes DOTA most of the Player groups i know Switched to Consoles... It's not about the Money, it's about convenience... Legion launching on PS4... It'd be a fail most likely... I don't think CCP can keep up from a Performance point of view Consoles Dying OFF... LOL people paid 1500 For a PS4 This is adorable...
I can't reason with you so I'll just say this: every year consoles are trying, desperately, to become more like PCs. Think about why that is. Do a little digging; be open to the idea that consoles are an antiquated technology and embrace your place in the Master Race.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:00:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Because there's gonna be a hole in the market when they all become tablets and smart phones! lol. Real talk, mobile console gaming might live on. The 3DS, PSP, and PsVita don't directly compete with PC gaming so they might just survive the console genocide.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:21:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Reality is, you dont know. You want to be like that and that a believe, not a reality. BTW im not tryhard, im supportive player. We gave CCP ideas what they want to implement somewhere else. End of story. *BTW you atacking here whole community what is against forums rule
We gave CCP ideas and they went to the platform where those ideas were actually possible. They are trying to give us what we want. What we want won't happen on a console. It could happen on a PC, so that's where they are moving development.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:39:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Jack Boost wrote:Console Gamers to be the Minority... I Have been Playing MP since late 90s. and I know a lot of MP Players and Groups all around the World... Except of games likes DOTA most of the Player groups i know Switched to Consoles... It's not about the Money, it's about convenience... Legion launching on PS4... It'd be a fail most likely... I don't think CCP can keep up from a Performance point of view Consoles Dying OFF... LOL people paid 1500 For a PS4 Why... do... you... use... so... many... ellipses...? You Are concerned about Ellipses, I'm concerned about the Random Capital Letters.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:43:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Its possible on Ps3 too, PvE, market, PvP everything was here before and it was possible and now its not. I honestly think the reason is somewhere else. I dont care if they will do Dust2.0/Legion on pc. I just think, they should finish what they starts and promised us here. Nothing else. Hell they made matchmaking and balancing great this time. I know the possiblities are here. Playercount in MAG was 256. Even great animations, take look on other titles like KZ, Destiny, Mirrors edge, graphix are possible too. I basicaly dont know what is that legendary impossibility. Everythink is here It might be possible, but it will be a pain in the ass to code. The PS3's software is notoriously hard to code for. Why spend 1,000 labor hours to update a game that will be passable on PS3, when you could spend the same amount of time making an AMAZING PC game with much more to offer a player?
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:06:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Naughty dog can do that. Guerilla can do that. Rockstar did that. Dead Zipper did that. Gearbox did that. Bungie did that. Hell even Dice with mirrors edge did that. Pain in the ass is not limitation. It is, actually. It's called Return on Investment. When it makes more business-sense to put time into the easier platform to develop for, you do it. Sure, they COULD develop for PS3. It's possible, but not the smart decision.
postapo wastelander wrote:When i was in army i newer told something is pain in the ass. It was my job to do that. When i found job like PMC i never told customer:"Sorry its pain in the ass." It was my job to do that. When i exiled to PSC i never told our boss:"Sorry its a pain in the ass." I just did that. The military is not a business with risky investments and a finite amount of resources. Don't compare apples to oranges.
postapo wastelander wrote:Why leaving here community and years spent in game what still have potential and can be finished with everything promised. Just for making it once more and risking everything what you spent on that, like with Word of Darkness?! They aren't abandoning everything. CCP is just shifting platforms. It's not like all the SP and ISK we've cached here is going to just vanish when Legion hits... you make it sound like our characters are going to be deleted... don't sensationalize this. It's a business making a decision to move to a platform they are far more familiar with.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:07:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I don't care much for Legion since my pc is not meant for gaming (can barely run Minecraft).
I would like to see the Dust Dream fulfilled in some sort of way, though. You know, market, PvE, etc...
I'd love to try it if it's available for me, though. I just dislike subscription type games. It's what turns me off from EvE. I don't see them making Legion a monthly subscription game. I could be wrong, but I see them making it similar to Dust with an in-game marketplace.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:08:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:I know right...
I have always owned Great PCs and Did a lot of tourneys.... Don't have to teach me about being part of the Master Race :)
Consoles are Just fun... Laying down in your Couch chilling, smoking and drinking and shooting stuff at the same time... And why can't you do that on your PC? I have my PC hooked up to my living room TV right now. It works just fine.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:11:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:it doesn't give the Same feeling as a Controller... Besides, to me it's more challenging to aim and shoot with a Controller You know you can EASILY connect a DS4 controller to a PC, right? http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-connect-a-ps4-controller-to-pc/
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:29:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:They are I guess not upto the challenge as FPS Developers... They Came to Compete in the Console World... They showed promise, we supported them, then they gave up... I will admit, they were pretty silly to dip their toes in the console market. It's not a good move for a company who has developed 100% of their games for PC. They should have stayed in their home field. We could all be playing Legion 2.2 or 2.3 by now, if they had just stuck with PC.
NAV HIV wrote:Logibro and Rattati have done some great PR work and Damage control after Fanfest nightmare by the French guy... Logibro and Rattati have done an amazing job. I really hope they stay onboard for Legion. They will be major assets to the team.
NAV HIV wrote:Destiny sold 500mil + in 24 hours... So i'm guessing Console market is the worst place to invest huh?! Destiny was made by a AAA developer that already has a huge name in gaming because of the Halo franchise. Plus, Bundie did not released it for PC on launch. This forced many PC gamers to buy the console version when they would MUCH rather have the PC version. I'd be very interested to see the sales numbers if they had released it for PC as well as consoles on launch day.
They also did an amazing job on Destiny. It is the exception to the rule. PC generates a better rate of return for companies than consoles do. Here is a short gamespot article on it.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:11:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:So are you counting all the people who **** around with Facebook games are part of your "master race" since those are technically PC gamers Sounds like a pretty frakked gene pool to me The Farmville cow-clicker style games are a percentage of PC gamers. A more accurate, and larger, percentage would PC gamers who play MOBAs like League of Legends, Civilization V, Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Arma 3, MMORPG's like Wildstar or Eve Online.
If we're nit-picking I could say a percentage of console players are made of up Cory in the House fans... but I don't because that's a poor representation of the audience.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:37:00 -
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Cpt McReady wrote:yeah that must be the reason why console game sales usually put PC games sales into shame... yeah totally dying and minority Forbes article about PC gaming sales surpassing console sales. Dated April 2014. Here's a fun quote from that article, "there is some fascinating peripheral data showing that PC gamingGÇÖs dominance will only continue." Have any sources to back up your claim, or are you just talking out of your ass?
Cpt McReady wrote:ps3 is more than capable of doing what dust should have been. issue was the CCP shanghai teams infancy in development from the beginning. if you think that will change when legion goes live in 2 years then you must be really living in a dreamworld. dust could have run on a toaster with all the features it should have if you wanted to but this can be only understood by someone that actually has advanced programming knowledge which you obviously do not have. Advanced programming knowledge is something I don't have, but many companies have said that developing for the PS3 is not a good time. Hell, SONY even admitted it! Look not further than the bub lists for games on PS3 vs. PC; the PC versions almost always have fewer bugs. Skyrim, for example, can't even properly utilize the autosave function on PS3. Bethesda has basically given up on trying to fix it on the PS3 because it's such a massive pain in the ass.
Cpt McReady wrote:leave you internet wisdom for your bathroom talk wiith your mirror I have no idea what this means. I assume its an insult. Can someone confirm this for me? I need a consult.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:39:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:let's Say you have Super hot Girl over... Press the PS button on your PS4 and Everything Turns on the way you'd want it to. Let entertain her with the New PS bots and the PS EYE and have some fun.. Can't exactly Say, "Hey check this out, it's My PC..." She'd say, "You don't even have a Laptop ?!" LOL
I have nothing against PC, i have my happy gaming PC... But i don't go around calling Console users Morons... Some people are just too backdated i guess... ITT a console peasant tries to convince us that your PS4 will get you laid... holy **** now I've seen everything,
And we don't think you are morons. Within every console peasant is a PC Lord (or Lady) just waiting to be set free.
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Posted - 2014.09.18 11:53:00 -
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Cpt McReady wrote:The article about the so called "analysis" you posted specifically is extremely biased. why? because it takes all PC only games + crossplattform games as base for the analysis. First of all, there are far less console titles than PC titles but the analysis uses absolute numbers instead of relative/proportional values. second, there is also an overlap because most console gamers are also playing on a PC. This entire paragraph is nonsense. What does it matter if he is using absolute numbers? How does that effect the argument either way? He's not biased at all. DFC Intelligence is a company that researches trends in digital entertainment. They could care less who is coming out on top; they just report their findings.
Cpt McReady wrote:Beside that, David Cole, the guy that claims all the stuff without any proof has zero credibility and is as usual totally wrong. Prove it. Again, no citations means you are just talking out of your ass.
Cpt McReady wrote:He's an economist, he makes "educated" guesses on how a market will perform. No, actually he's the CEO of his company... which researches and forecasts trends in digital entertainment. I'm sure he has several economists on his staff though... along with many other disciplines that could be leveraged in forecasting and analytics.
Cpt McReady wrote:He's basically looking at the past year of the MOBA fad and predicting it will continue to grow at the same rate for the next 2 years. He references many other games/genres in this article than MOBAs. "MMOs, strategy games, and shooters" are mentioned. I think you skimmed the article and read what you wanted to read.
Cpt McReady wrote:The world doesn't work that way, and before you claim he knows what he's talking about, go read some of his older reports that were completely wrong in their predictions. Either cite an article or document where DFC Intelligence was wrong or pipe down.
The CEO of Raptr confirmed that there are over 900 million PC gamers globally and growing rapidly. Meanwhile, there are something like 260 million console units sold globally. D3 (PC) sold 6.3 million units in the first week it was released; meanwhile, The Last of Us (PS3) solid 6 million units through it's entire 15-month life.
If you are going to post something here again, please back it up with sources. Otherwise, you are wasting my time.
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Posted - 2014.09.18 15:29:00 -
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Soreconyr wrote:Is a Big Mac better than Five Guys? Not even close, but McD's sells a lot more burgers annually. Why? It's simple: Accessibility and familiarity. I'm not sure how this applies to the PC vs. console argument, but yes, you are correct: Five Guys makes a damn decent burger.
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