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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.17 10:59:00 -
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Could it be?
Did they finally force Scotty to ditch his GED and go for a Master's Degree?
The 1st Matari Commando
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
7259
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:39:00 -
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you tell me
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:45:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:you tell me
Seems to me that matchmaking has been better of late, it will obviously work better during peak hours when the number of players is at it's highest.
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Vapor Forseti
1424
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:49:00 -
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Didn't know you guys were working on this as of late. Awesomesauce. Will test when I get on in a couple hours.
Bad news is that I have a high KDR, but I have skills of a newbro :(
When you are in a pinch, just say "Help me, Dark Adonis" and I will come to you, literally.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
910
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:54:00 -
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not reall i always get in matches with proto stompers with no other good corps on my team. I understand im good Scotty but i cant take on a squad of scrubs
Pokemon master!
I suck at Tekken lol
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:58:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Didn't know you guys were working on this as of late. Awesomesauce. Will test when I get on in a couple hours.
Bad news is that I have a high KDR, but I have skills of a newbro :(
Here is a thread where CCP Ratati and the player community discussed how to improve matchmaking.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172410&find=unread
From Ratati's comment above, sounds like they implemented it.
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1666
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Posted - 2014.09.17 12:53:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175428&find=unread
He did. Yesterday in fact.
CPM 1 member
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
385
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:08:00 -
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I've seen way more interesting match ups. As always thanks for the work and efforts Rattati, you really make a impact on this this game. A positive impact that is and as a vet I can honestly say it was time for more positive things to happen. |
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
24
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:11:00 -
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Finally after whole that years of newbstomping by vets, there is solved mechanique. Nice
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
467
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:20:00 -
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Well I'm disappointed then, had the same crap half a team with less players than the other & 100% one sided matches... But I guess it'll take time for the moo (Mu) to balance itself. |
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
748
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:30:00 -
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I sincerely hope CCP Rattati and crew stay on board when the transition to Legion starts happening in earnest, you guys have done absolute wonders for the game since Hotfix Alpha and the community to developer interaction has never been better. If we had you guys working back since Closed Beta of Dust we'd be in a very different place right now.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
26
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:36:00 -
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Nope its not working again grinding against mass of vets with just "nonnamed newbies", oh man and i think it will be fine
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
534
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:41:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Well I'm disappointed then, had the same crap half a team with less players than the other & 100% one sided matches... But I guess it'll take time for the moo (Mu) to balance itself.
Probly somthing to do with what I just asked in another thread... Got derailed almost immediately by superderps
Lonewolf till I die
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
26
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Could it be?
Did they finally force Scotty to ditch his GED and go for a Master's Degree?
Sadly if scotty have master degree, it is bough or hes drunk after that exam. I was on first match and same ol' thingie like before, no balance at all newbies against protos.
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3388
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:51:00 -
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...As a solo player, I find it funny that I'm being placed in matches with corp squads of 1.up, S.A.I.U.K.I., Glory, and few others.
Does this mean I'm close to the skill level of these squads or do I just have bad luck and Scotty dislikes me? Either way, my matches have been pretty damn good. No complete stomps as of yet... |
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
26
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:11:00 -
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Oki overal its 50x50, second game was actually pretty balanced and we won. We will see how it will be later, overal its seems like good step ahead.
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
2259
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:28:00 -
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I hope they used WPs per death (excluding teamkills and suicides) as the balancing metric. It's the hardest to game/manipulate, and it punnishes redline snipers by putting them in harder matches. It also tracks well with win/loss without the huge disadvantage of perversely incentivizing players to deliberately cause their team to loose so they can stomp more easily.
Anyways, it was an awesome discussion, and CCP Rattati deserves a lot of credit for his methodical approach.
o7
Best PvE idea ever!
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Bar Be
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:08:00 -
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Well its Wednesday and I've got a positive KDR so something's changed... |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1520
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:16:00 -
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Most of our matches last night were good ones. I did get into one stomp late last night, but overall the matches did seem a bit more balanced. Will pay better attention to it today..... |
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
28
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:17:00 -
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Its seems i finaly can throwing mud for losing battles to me and incompetence of my team. What is actually really visible right now
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
7288
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:19:00 -
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send me direct feedback to [email protected]. Screenshots welcome and ranting "I shouldn't be against these guys etc." Then I can look up the characters and their stats and see if it worked correctly
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
28
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:57:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:send me direct feedback to [email protected]. Screenshots welcome and ranting "I shouldn't be against these guys etc." Then I can look up the characters and their stats and see if it worked correctly
It seems like it better to be in conection with you than CPMs, honestly good job with this one
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
2259
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Posted - 2014.09.17 16:00:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:send me direct feedback to [email protected]. Screenshots welcome and ranting "I shouldn't be against these guys etc." Then I can look up the characters and their stats and see if it worked correctly Are you guys considering A/B testing the squad modifier constants to try to find the perfect number? I'd do this like a binary search where you start with numbers that are fairly far appart and every week you move them in, splitting the difference until you converge on the values that yield the closest matches.
Best PvE idea ever!
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
7288
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Posted - 2014.09.17 16:03:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:send me direct feedback to [email protected]. Screenshots welcome and ranting "I shouldn't be against these guys etc." Then I can look up the characters and their stats and see if it worked correctly Are you guys considering A/B testing the squad modifier constants to try to find the perfect number? I'd do this like a binary search where you start with numbers that are fairly far appart and every week you move them in, splitting the difference until you converge on the values that yield the closest matches.
Eventually, definitely.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Tebu Gan
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1200
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Posted - 2014.09.17 16:25:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:...As a solo player, I find it funny that I'm being placed in matches with corp squads of 1.up, S.A.I.U.K.I., Glory, and few others.
Does this mean I'm close to the skill level of these squads or do I just have bad luck and Scotty dislikes me? Either way, my matches have been pretty damn good. No complete stomps as of yet...
Sounds to me there needs to be an emphasis on pitting squads against squads, rather than focusing on players "Skill levels". A no squad mode would do wonders for this game.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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matsumoto yuichi san
The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance
51
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:28:00 -
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so is Mu precalculated, or is this a new metric is the question ? because otherwise there will be settling time for the new system |
RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
414
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:01:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote: A no squad mode would do wonders for this game.
Really, nerf teamwork? You want a no squad gamemode in a game designed for squads... SMH |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
447
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:04:00 -
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Does this also apply for FW, and are the ranks seperate from pubs and fw?
First dude to cloak a commando.
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Tebu Gan
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1202
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:46:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Tebu Gan wrote: A no squad mode would do wonders for this game.
Really, nerf teamwork? You want a no squad gamemode in a game designed for squads... SMH
You can preach that all you want, but it's player preference. I personally like lone wolfing. And it's foolish to assume that teamwork isn't possible for those that want to join unsquaded. From a matchmaking perspective, it would be the best way to get more even games.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
636
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:52:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:...As a solo player, I find it funny that I'm being placed in matches with corp squads of 1.up, S.A.I.U.K.I., Glory, and few others.
Does this mean I'm close to the skill level of these squads or do I just have bad luck and Scotty dislikes me? Either way, my matches have been pretty damn good. No complete stomps as of yet...
Are you saying Glory is actually good?
If so I feel sorry for you. |
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
158
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:28:00 -
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So I played about a dozen matches today (mostly ambush an a couple of domination). For the most part the games were balanced but it seemed that whenever a squad of Nyan San was in the match balancing did not work...
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7583
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:41:00 -
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What this Mu rating has done is shown me how bad the Plasma Rifle and Gallente Assault Bonus really is.
I like playing against competent people, but sadly all this has done is put me against people who use the easiest suits and weapons and has put me at a severe disadvantage. This is not the fault of the Mu System however, It's CCP's balance is to blame here.
Short ranged weapons getting outclassed by longer ranged weapons in every way? How does that even seem balanced to you guys? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a short ranged weapon should operate extremely well in it's range compared to a longer ranged weapon in close quarters.
That's like having a... there's nothing else I can compare it to because this is literally the best simile for itself. This is game balance 101, like you learn this **** in Elementary school 1 + 1 = 2 .
I know these things take time but the reason I'm annoyed is that they buffed the all variants of the Plasma Rifle for Delta except the Assault Plasma Rifle. Even though it was the best of all of them it still grossly underperformed when compared to the other Primary Rifles.
Sighs...at least my Ion Pistol won't be complete garbage.
Something's wrong when you regret
Things that haven't happened yet
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
507
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Posted - 2014.09.17 22:24:00 -
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Agreeing with the majority. Ran 6 or 7 Dom/Ambush and only had 1 stomp (Nyain San/ Pikkachu SP?). Had 2 different Ambush matches that went to 0 clones on both teams. The matches for the most part have all been at least competitive where it isn't a beatdown one way or the other. Thank you for your work on this issue and, to be honest, all the other issues.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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matsumoto yuichi san
The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance
51
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Posted - 2014.09.17 23:02:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:send me direct feedback to [email protected]. Screenshots welcome and ranting "I shouldn't be against these guys etc." Then I can look up the characters and their stats and see if it worked correctly
sent you a mail my games this evening have been hit or miss
(there is a screengrab in the mail. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
919
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Posted - 2014.09.17 23:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Could it be?
Did they finally force Scotty to ditch his GED and go for a Master's Degree? nowp. just did a few matches and they were dominated by proto scrubs in squads
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 1 Forum Pariah
What ever happened to buffing Logi eHP in Delta?!
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
919
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Posted - 2014.09.17 23:34:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Didn't know you guys were working on this as of late. Awesomesauce. Will test when I get on in a couple hours.
Bad news is that I have a high KDR, but I have skills of a newbro :( i have high WP from logi running but a low KDR.. so im getting stomped left right and center personally and team.
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 1 Forum Pariah
What ever happened to buffing Logi eHP in Delta?!
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SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
726
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:08:00 -
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Played a few matches in a full squad. Felt like we were stomping. Then again it wasn't absolute stomps... Maybe better.
I will play more and maybe take some pics if any matches seem bad. Get those sent to you. |
Haerr
Legio DXIV
1416
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:17:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:you tell me Really not sure... I was looking at the archived posts and maybe it will just take some time before the Mu values start to settle and become really useful.
Oh look a bunny! -> =ƒΙη
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
7314
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:32:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Atiim wrote:Could it be?
Did they finally force Scotty to ditch his GED and go for a Master's Degree? nowp. just did a few matches and they were dominated by proto scrubs in squads
tell me something about the battles, name of character playing and someone on the opposite team. Otherwise, this is just anecdotal and "useless" information. I do not mean it in a bad way, I just can't "use" it so it is "useless"
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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matsumoto yuichi san
The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance
52
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Posted - 2014.09.18 01:27:00 -
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the screenshot of the killboard at the end should be sufficient yes? |
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
162
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:25:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:you tell me Great job rattati, the only problem im having is getting into an fw solo. I tried 3 times, 7 minutes each time, just couldnt get in. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2240
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:53:00 -
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Played 4 games today on my main/alt. All were close, all were a challenge. gg Rattati & crew.
PSN: RationalSpark
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danthrax martin
Butcher's Nails
119
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:59:00 -
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I haven't seen more than 6 of any corp on the other side. Was getting high kills and low deaths... Guess I can finally run adv and beefed up miltia. Thank you guys. It's almost weird making decent isk and having games come down to the wire.
Pro Galmando - Gal Sentinel
Suicidal A/V Moron
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SirManBoy
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
653
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Posted - 2014.09.18 04:03:00 -
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This thread makes me happy. I can't wait to get into some matches this weekend. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13325
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Posted - 2014.09.18 04:04:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:not reall i always get in matches with proto stompers with no other good corps on my team. I understand im good Scotty but i cant take on a squad of scrubs
Really?
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
7328
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Posted - 2014.09.18 06:12:00 -
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matsumoto yuichi san wrote:the screenshot of the killboard at the end should be sufficient yes?
That's perfect!
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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y678iop
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:51:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:not reall i always get in matches with proto stompers with no other good corps on my team. I understand im good Scotty but i cant take on a squad of scrubs You are in a corp that requires a high weekly kd. You are also in a corp that does nothing but proto stomp in pubs, led by a former Nyain San and a real Mexican ******* Addict Punk. So we dont care. And corps like yours will not like these changes.
This is an alt. It is here to be banned, so that I may be outrageous and speak the TRUTH.
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