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voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.17 03:13:00 -
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how about at proto you just get 2 I don't camp so a proto giving me 36 is as useful as the 1 that gives me 25. 2 hives would work for both the camper and mobile sniper where as the increased only favors the camper. |
voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.17 03:30:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:But would they put in a PRO without an ADV? It could be adv at lvl 4 and no proto? since the std is already odd needing lvl 2
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voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.17 05:50:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Apparently,everyone that supports this doesn't want logistics around anymore. Why go to a team mate,when you can resupply yourselves? And this would aid the scout plague.
ADV and PRO do have hybrid hives. They don't refill as fast but you can carry more.
I'd alter this suggestion to be +1 deployable carried per level for logistics.
Then go get a logi-friend,that's what they're there for.
As it is,i've got to give this "we don't need logistics" idea a -1. Yeah thats what im missing when i snipe. A gimp I mean logi
Damn gimp dont have enough heavy / assaults legs to hump they want to hump on the sniper leg too. |
voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:05:00 -
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In all fairness as much as I hate the logi (hate from past when logi did it all better then the rest) it would be stepping on there toes to have the better compacts. From a sniper perspective it is logical but from logi perspective not so. Not like we could get a compact that would only refill sniper ammo so they don't interfere so bad with the logi roll. I guess that would be no different than just giving sniper more ammo for higher cpu/pg |
voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:43:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Disagree. Logis are there to rep heavies, drop uplinks, pick people up with needles, and spam nanohives.
Let's make it impossible for any suit other than logis to have nanohives, rep tools, needles and uplinks. We don't want anyone to NOT need a logi with them at all times, right? While we're at it, let's make it so supply depots don't supply ammo to infantry. Also, add a new vehicle nanohive and make supply depots not repair or supply ammo for vehicles either. Make it so all you can do at a supply depot is switch suits. This way even tankers and ADS will need a logi passenger with them to hop out and put down vehicle ammo hives and repair their armor for them.
Come on.
The argument doesn't hold water. It's time to introduce better compacts for scouts and snipers - both legitimate playstyles - with greater CPU/PG needs, ISK costs and SP requirements than the current STD compact hive. I need more logi uplink, nanohive spam as that is a big part of my WP destroying them so I have to pretend to be nice to the logi needs, lol
I play a solo scout and scout-sniper so I don't want a logi within 100m of me when doing either. If I was in FW and one tried to follow me I would shoot them. So yeah I am with you on the compacts.
I want compact uplinks too. Only good for 5 personal respawns so your sniper spot is not overrun by everyone on your team. yeah, I pretend everyone else are NPC's
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voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.18 06:28:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:Meee One wrote:You forgot scanners! But i agree 100% this idea is brilliant.
But seriously,no. Logistics should remain the best with all equipment,and everyone else should either befriend a logi,or suffer without.
Plus i F*CKING HATE assault scouts,and this would enable those sh*theads to thrive.
Being stealthily killed,aww man dat scout has skillz. Watching a scout charge head first into a group bouncing and killing with KN,REs or SG,h.e.l.l. no.
TBH,scouts should lose the extra equipment slot. Also,hybrid hives already exist.
TL;DR logistics is being eroded by scouts,and this would only add to that erosion. You're missing the part where compact hives already exist and have not "eroded" logistics. You're also missing the part where the entire point of the compact hive is the tiny dome. Being more discreet is the benefit you gain from having much less ammo/repair available from the compact hive. The point is to hide it where it isn't going to be noticed. I feel like I'm having to explain the same thing over and over again to idiots who either can't or don't read. It hasn't eroded logistics because it's very limited. Giving it more clusters negates the usefulness of the Cal logistics bonuses. You want a long lasting compact? Bring a lv5 cal logi along and tell him where to drop it. autonomy is part of the reason scouts are so OP,they require no logistical support. If they did,they would be reigned in more than they are. LoL Gimp will you wipe my ass as I snipe. Ok gimp im done go back to your corner 100m away till i take another **** and you can wipe my ass again. It should be mandatory that 8 of the 16 players per side should be a gimp. everyone should have there own gimp. nerf the heavy for hogging up all the gimps.
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voidfaction
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Posted - 2014.09.18 07:22:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:Meee One wrote:You forgot scanners! But i agree 100% this idea is brilliant.
But seriously,no. Logistics should remain the best with all equipment,and everyone else should either befriend a logi,or suffer without.
Plus i F*CKING HATE assault scouts,and this would enable those sh*theads to thrive.
Being stealthily killed,aww man dat scout has skillz. Watching a scout charge head first into a group bouncing and killing with KN,REs or SG,h.e.l.l. no.
TBH,scouts should lose the extra equipment slot. Also,hybrid hives already exist.
TL;DR logistics is being eroded by scouts,and this would only add to that erosion. You're missing the part where compact hives already exist and have not "eroded" logistics. You're also missing the part where the entire point of the compact hive is the tiny dome. Being more discreet is the benefit you gain from having much less ammo/repair available from the compact hive. The point is to hide it where it isn't going to be noticed. I feel like I'm having to explain the same thing over and over again to idiots who either can't or don't read. It hasn't eroded logistics because it's very limited. Giving it more clusters negates the usefulness of the Cal logistics bonuses. You want a long lasting compact? Bring a lv5 cal logi along and tell him where to drop it. autonomy is part of the reason scouts are so OP,they require no logistical support. If they did,they would be reigned in more than they are. You want logi to be usefull then ask to have equipment spam get destroyed when player changes out of the suit. get rid of the damn logi spam and change that they do now. sad a logi can get LOTS of WP for equipment and only actually play the logi for a few min and play something else the rest of the match still collecting there equipment WP. You want to cry a logi has no role then ask to fix the main thing broke about logi. force a logi to be a logi to get the WP from there equipment.
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