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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.17 05:13:00 -
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Apparently,everyone that supports this doesn't want logistics around anymore.
Why go to a team mate,when you can resupply yourselves?
And this would aid the scout plague.
ADV and PRO do have hybrid hives.
They don't refill as fast but you can carry more.
I'd alter this suggestion to be +1 deployable carried per level for logistics.
Then go get a logi-friend,that's what they're there for.
As it is,i've got to give this "we don't need logistics" idea a -1.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.17 10:14:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Disagree. Logis are there to rep heavies, drop uplinks, pick people up with needles, and spam nanohives.
Let's make it impossible for any suit other than logis to have nanohives, rep tools, needles and uplinks. We don't want anyone to NOT need a logi with them at all times, right? While we're at it, let's make it so supply depots don't supply ammo to infantry. Also, add a new vehicle nanohive and make supply depots not repair or supply ammo for vehicles either. Make it so all you can do at a supply depot is switch suits. This way even tankers and ADS will need a logi passenger with them to hop out and put down vehicle ammo hives and repair their armor for them.
Come on.
The argument doesn't hold water. It's time to introduce better compacts for scouts and snipers - both legitimate playstyles - with greater CPU/PG needs, ISK costs and SP requirements than the current STD compact hive.
You forgot scanners!
But i agree 100% this idea is brilliant.
But seriously,no.
Logistics should remain the best with all equipment,and everyone else should either befriend a logi,or suffer without.
Plus i F*CKING HATE assault scouts,and this would enable those sh*theads to thrive.
Being stealthily killed,aww man dat scout has skillz.
Watching a scout charge head first into a group bouncing and killing with KN,REs or SG,h.e.l.l. no.
TBH,scouts should lose the extra equipment slot.
Also,hybrid hives already exist.
TL;DR logistics is being eroded by scouts,and this would only add to that erosion.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.17 10:22:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:I don't drop links where I snipe anymore - too many bluedots giving me away with their forge guns or just their bad sniping. BUT I would use a super-limited compact uplink like that to give the rest of my squad one good fast deployment into the heart of the enemy.
"Wait for it... wait for it..."
"Come on, Jace, we need that ******* link!"
"Gogogogogogogogogo!!!"
Pro level uplink.
'Abyss' Carthum Drop Uplink
Only for AUR,there isn't an isk variety.
-75% spawn time
5 max spawns (squad)
Blows up if the user dies.
LRN2 Market
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.18 05:15:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Meee One wrote:You forgot scanners!
But i agree 100% this idea is brilliant.
But seriously,no.
Logistics should remain the best with all equipment,and everyone else should either befriend a logi,or suffer without.
Plus i F*CKING HATE assault scouts,and this would enable those sh*theads to thrive.
Being stealthily killed,aww man dat scout has skillz.
Watching a scout charge head first into a group bouncing and killing with KN,REs or SG,h.e.l.l. no.
TBH,scouts should lose the extra equipment slot.
Also,hybrid hives already exist.
TL;DR logistics is being eroded by scouts,and this would only add to that erosion. You're missing the part where compact hives already exist and have not "eroded" logistics. You're also missing the part where the entire point of the compact hive is the tiny dome. Being more discreet is the benefit you gain from having much less ammo/repair available from the compact hive. The point is to hide it where it isn't going to be noticed. I feel like I'm having to explain the same thing over and over again to idiots who either can't or don't read.
It hasn't eroded logistics because it's very limited.
Giving it more clusters negates the usefulness of the Cal logistics bonuses.
You want a long lasting compact?
Bring a lv5 cal logi along and tell him where to drop it.
autonomy is part of the reason scouts are so OP,they require no logistical support.
If they did,they would be reigned in more than they are.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:54:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Meee One wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:Meee One wrote:You forgot scanners!
But i agree 100% this idea is brilliant.
But seriously,no.
Logistics should remain the best with all equipment,and everyone else should either befriend a logi,or suffer without.
Plus i F*CKING HATE assault scouts,and this would enable those sh*theads to thrive.
Being stealthily killed,aww man dat scout has skillz.
Watching a scout charge head first into a group bouncing and killing with KN,REs or SG,h.e.l.l. no.
TBH,scouts should lose the extra equipment slot.
Also,hybrid hives already exist.
TL;DR logistics is being eroded by scouts,and this would only add to that erosion. You're missing the part where compact hives already exist and have not "eroded" logistics. You're also missing the part where the entire point of the compact hive is the tiny dome. Being more discreet is the benefit you gain from having much less ammo/repair available from the compact hive. The point is to hide it where it isn't going to be noticed. I feel like I'm having to explain the same thing over and over again to idiots who either can't or don't read. It hasn't eroded logistics because it's very limited. Giving it more clusters negates the usefulness of the Cal logistics bonuses. You want a long lasting compact? Bring a lv5 cal logi along and tell him where to drop it. autonomy is part of the reason scouts are so OP,they require no logistical support. If they did,they would be reigned in more than they are. You want logi to be usefull then ask to have equipment spam get destroyed when player changes out of the suit. get rid of the damn logi spam and change that they do now. sad a logi can get LOTS of WP for equipment and only actually play the logi for a few min and play something else the rest of the match still collecting there equipment WP. You want to cry a logi has no role then ask to fix the main thing broke about logi. force a logi to be a logi to get the WP from there equipment.
Sadly enough,i witness scouts spam more eq on average than logistics.
Ok,have all deployables refill at supply depots,and it might be reasonable.
But,it just isn't worth it to most to stay logistics.
They have nothing giving them an edge in survival.
So,they spam with the easily killed logi,then swap to a suit that can survive better.
And i don't blame them,who wants to be in a slow scout suit anyway?
Until players feel confident they won't be OHK and lose all their undeployed gear,nothing will change.
But seeing as SG/KN scouts,and soon to be OHK sniper rifles are about to be unleashed i don't see it changing anytime soon.
And trapping players in the logistics suit by removing bonuses if they swap is just as bad.
You're saying 'enjoy your walking coffin,you can't hide,you can't evade,you can't tank,and you can't kill'.
With all weapons getting more and more 'viable',you'll see players migrate away from those logistics in particular.
But who cares amirite?
Who needs logistics? We have scouts!
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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