DUST Search - My First Hatemail!

Fox Gaden wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Strangely enough I don't see remotes on objectives as often as I use to. Even if they're there when I can't see them, I often manage to hack the objective with my Super-Fast-Hack Minscout before the user has time to detonate them.

It goes in cycles. Remote users start putting remote explosives on Objectives and getting lots of kills. Then people wise up and start looking for remotes, or fluxing the terminal before hacking, so the Remote users stop getting kills from it.

So the Remote users start using the remotes elsewhere because they are not getting kills on the terminals. After a while people start to notice that they are not finding remotes on the terminals anymore so they lower their risk assessment. When they are in a hurry to hack they donGÇÖt bother checking for remotes, and the more times they get away with it the less they bother checking. That is sort of where we are right now.

Soon some Remote user will mine a terminal and will get some kills. Since it works the first time they will continue doing it. Then other Remote users will notice, and mining the terminals will becomes a thing again. And thus the cycle continues.

I am getting a lot of kills recently by mining Drop Uplinks since it has been a long time since placing remotes on Drop Uplinks has been GÇ£a thingGÇ¥.

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9393	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:16:00 - [31] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: At least he was pretty chill about it. I loled at "mixed emotions" Yeah, I know that feeling. A combination of frustration and mad respect! I also have mixed emotions every time I get killed by remote explosives used as an offensive weapon, since I did write the Remote Explosive guide detailing how to do it. So you practically tasted your own medicine? Time and time again. The worst is the embarrassment I feel when I forget to check for remotes before hacking a point... Hardly anyone was doing it when I wrote the guide. Strangely enough I don't see remotes on objectives as often as I use to. Even if they're there when I can't see them, I often manage to hack the objective with my Super-Fast-Hack Minscout before the user has time to detonate them. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4253	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:21:00 - [32] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I'm jealous. But I'll keep an eye out for those "key words". Although I fear I will only get fan mail for the rest of my life. Honestly, it is probably because of your DUST University tag. They think, "Oh, good for him!" And those that know that you are an Instructor level player, rather than a noob, also know what a nice guys you are. You are going to have to do something a lot more egregious to get hate mail. Have you tried Sniping from the top of the MCC in a Sentinel suit with a Thales? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9393	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:27:00 - [33] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I'm jealous. But I'll keep an eye out for those "key words". Although I fear I will only get fan mail for the rest of my life. Honestly, it is probably because of your DUST University tag. They think, "Oh, good for him!" And those that know that you are an Instructor level player, rather than a noob, also know what a nice guys you are. You are going to have to do something a lot more egregious to get hate mail. Have you tried Sniping from the top of the MCC in a Sentinel suit with a Thales? Nope. I tried sniping but I suck so badly. I kill players better when I'm up close and personal. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4253	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:33:00 - [34] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Strangely enough I don't see remotes on objectives as often as I use to. Even if they're there when I can't see them, I often manage to hack the objective with my Super-Fast-Hack Minscout before the user has time to detonate them. It goes in cycles. Remote users start putting remote explosives on Objectives and getting lots of kills. Then people wise up and start looking for remotes, or fluxing the terminal before hacking, so the Remote users stop getting kills from it. So the Remote users start using the remotes elsewhere because they are not getting kills on the terminals. After a while people start to notice that they are not finding remotes on the terminals anymore so they lower their risk assessment. When they are in a hurry to hack they donGÇÖt bother checking for remotes, and the more times they get away with it the less they bother checking. That is sort of where we are right now. Soon some Remote user will mine a terminal and will get some kills. Since it works the first time they will continue doing it. Then other Remote users will notice, and mining the terminals will becomes a thing again. And thus the cycle continues. I am getting a lot of kills recently by mining Drop Uplinks since it has been a long time since placing remotes on Drop Uplinks has been GÇ£a thingGÇ¥. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4253	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:34:00 - [35] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I'm jealous. But I'll keep an eye out for those "key words". Although I fear I will only get fan mail for the rest of my life. Honestly, it is probably because of your DUST University tag. They think, "Oh, good for him!" And those that know that you are an Instructor level player, rather than a noob, also know what a nice guys you are. You are going to have to do something a lot more egregious to get hate mail. Have you tried Sniping from the top of the MCC in a Sentinel suit with a Thales? Nope. I tried sniping but I suck so badly. I kill players better when I'm up close and personal. Not a good enough sniper to get hate mailGÇª Maybe the Contact grenades still work. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9395	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:44:00 - [36] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Strangely enough I don't see remotes on objectives as often as I use to. Even if they're there when I can't see them, I often manage to hack the objective with my Super-Fast-Hack Minscout before the user has time to detonate them. It goes in cycles. Remote users start putting remote explosives on Objectives and getting lots of kills. Then people wise up and start looking for remotes, or fluxing the terminal before hacking, so the Remote users stop getting kills from it. So the Remote users start using the remotes elsewhere because they are not getting kills on the terminals. After a while people start to notice that they are not finding remotes on the terminals anymore so they lower their risk assessment. When they are in a hurry to hack they donGÇÖt bother checking for remotes, and the more times they get away with it the less they bother checking. That is sort of where we are right now. Soon some Remote user will mine a terminal and will get some kills. Since it works the first time they will continue doing it. Then other Remote users will notice, and mining the terminals will becomes a thing again. And thus the cycle continues. I am getting a lot of kills recently by mining Drop Uplinks since it has been a long time since placing remotes on Drop Uplinks has been GÇ£a thingGÇ¥. Believe it or not, I have stabbed a few uplinks that were rigged with REs yet I didn't die from them. I'm not sure if it was glitch or something. But you could hear the RE explode in front of you when you stabbed it. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4115	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:49:00 - [37] - Quote If that is hatemail, that is the mildest hatemail ever. Maybe, if the merc was Canadian, it could be considered hatemail. The only hatemail I ever received was from hacking a CRU that some blues were camping. I hate spawn camping... You can always tell a Millford Minja
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4443	Posted - 2014.09.15 19:57:00 - [38] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: If that is hatemail, that is the mildest hatemail ever. Maybe, if the merc was Canadian, it could be considered hatemail. The only hatemail I ever received was from hacking a CRU that some blues were camping. I hate spawn camping... Now nowGÇª Canadian Hatemail ends starts and ends with Quote: I'm sorry It would be kindaGÇª Canadian Hatemail wrote: I'm sorry you had to run into the redline, and lose your suite to kill my ThaleGÇª which i am somewhat disgruntled over losing. Again I am sorry you had to spend so much time and resources running me down. KRRROOOOOOM
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 224	Posted - 2014.09.15 20:01:00 - [39] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Proof! And to top it all off it was one of them redline Galmando Thale's snipers. I was wondering when I was gonna get me one of these mails. EDIT: Fixed link. Ahh i remember my first hate mail back in the day when I was sniping people with my core flaylock pistol. TROLOLOLOLOLOL. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4888	Posted - 2014.09.15 20:03:00 - [40] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Proof! And to top it all off it was one of them redline Galmando Thale's snipers. I was wondering when I was gonna get me one of these mails. EDIT: Fixed link. That looks more like fan mail to me. Agreed. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

Orphan Shadow Waiting For Deployment 22	Posted - 2014.09.15 20:34:00 - [41] - Quote JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Who cares? Lol. I love that this thread turned out great with some good dialogue, and that everyone (except me) completely ignored you. As it should be.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4123	Posted - 2014.09.15 20:47:00 - [42] - Quote Orphan Shadow wrote: JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Who cares? Lol. I love that this thread turned out great with some good dialogue, and that everyone (except me) completely ignored you. As it should be. But you just quoted him. And telling someone you are ignoring them is actually not ignoring them. I think you need to adjust how you ignore someone if you are to do so. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1412	Posted - 2014.09.15 21:05:00 - [43] - Quote Orphan Shadow wrote: JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Who cares? Lol. I love that this thread turned out great with some good dialogue, and that everyone (except me) completely ignored you. As it should be. But Vapor-senpai noticed him fir- shot When you are in a pinch, just say "Help me, Dark Adonis" and I will come to you, literally.

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 445	Posted - 2014.09.15 21:15:00 - [44] - Quote Killing is Just a Means GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4258	Posted - 2014.09.15 22:33:00 - [45] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Orphan Shadow wrote: JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Who cares? Lol. I love that this thread turned out great with some good dialogue, and that everyone (except me) completely ignored you. As it should be. But you just quoted him. And telling someone you are ignoring them is actually not ignoring them. I think you need to adjust how you ignore someone if you are to do so. ... Orphan Shadow wrote: (except me) Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4258	Posted - 2014.09.15 22:42:00 - [46] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Killing is Just a Means Permaband, the personification of what CCP has over other videogame companiesGÇª Even with all the setbacks and disappointments of pre Rattati DUST, listening to a Permaband song always reminds me that CCP is still a cool company. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1007	Posted - 2014.09.16 00:29:00 - [47] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: That's not..... wha? Also, if you Knifed him he wasn't "In the redline" as you claimed. Only on the edge. You don't know me that well, do you? I'm one of those guys that are willing to run deep into the redline in a very expensive protosuit and never come out. This sniper happened to be one those thale's snipers that sit deep in the redline thinking no one will catch them. He thought wrong. I can sprint 11m/s or two football fields in 20 seconds. If he was able to be reached on foot in the 15 second kill timer, he was not "Deep" I will repeat. If the guy was really "Deep" in the redline, you could have solid Kin Kats, and the fastest scout suit, and still never reach them in time. I'm very bluntly saying, that you have no concept of depth here... you were clearly running into a "Shallow" redline. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 201	Posted - 2014.09.16 00:36:00 - [48] - Quote Kudos for taking out a redline Thale sniper. I don't care how deep in the redline he was! GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9403	Posted - 2014.09.16 03:20:00 - [49] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: That's not..... wha? Also, if you Knifed him he wasn't "In the redline" as you claimed. Only on the edge. You don't know me that well, do you? I'm one of those guys that are willing to run deep into the redline in a very expensive protosuit and never come out. This sniper happened to be one those thale's snipers that sit deep in the redline thinking no one will catch them. He thought wrong. I can sprint 11m/s or two football fields in 20 seconds. If he was able to be reached on foot in the 15 second kill timer, he was not "Deep" I will repeat. If the guy was really "Deep" in the redline, you could have solid Kin Kats, and the fastest scout suit, and still never reach them in time. I'm very bluntly saying, that you have no concept of depth here... you were clearly running into a "Shallow" redline. When was the last time you spent dwelling inside the redberry-side of the redline? The redline timer is NOT 15 seconds. It's 20 seconds. Mathematically speaking, those 5 seconds make a difference. Fastest suit in the game: Scout Mk.0 @ 11m/s assuming you fitted 3x complex kinetic catalyzers. Redline Timer: 20 seconds from the moment you cross the redline. Maximum Possible Distance Traveled into Redline: 220 meters or just over 2 football fields. What does this mean? It means that assuming I'm playing skirmish in the Manus Peak Map coming from the attacker side -- which is Northwest side -- with part of the edge of the enemy redline being at the middle of Grid K-7, I can sprint non-stop from that very edge to just under the enemy MCC which is on Grid L-9. If you have the suit and skills for it, try it yourself. You will be amazed how far deep into the redline you can go. I have scared a lot of players doing this. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
SILENT GIANT Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.09.16 03:25:00 - [50] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: That's not..... wha? Also, if you Knifed him he wasn't "In the redline" as you claimed. Only on the edge. Actually I wasn't paying attention the other day and ran a decent way into the redline, knifed a guy at a turret then a sniper about 10 yards away before realizing I was in the redline and didn't have enough time to run out. The death was worth it though.

SILENT GIANT Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.09.16 03:27:00 - [51] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: That's not..... wha? Also, if you Knifed him he wasn't "In the redline" as you claimed. Only on the edge. You don't know me that well, do you? I'm one of those guys that are willing to run deep into the redline in a very expensive protosuit and never come out. This sniper happened to be one those thale's snipers that sit deep in the redline thinking no one will catch them. He thought wrong. I can sprint 11m/s or two football fields in 20 seconds. Figures, If I read the next post before replying I woulda read you gave him same responce


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