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pegasis prime wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

pegasis prime wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175107&find=unread

I started talking about it in this thread i made.

I am worried for you guys because this romantic notion does not correlate with reality.

Come on man, this is no dumber than the BNP wanting all immigrants out and they make it sound very good when in reality, it is not.

Please do not tell me that you think that you will be getting that oil. Not only is that a stupid reason for Independence, but it is false. It is owned by BP which is a corporation. whether you get freedom or not, they will still own the oil albeit, most of it. By that logic, the western world should give up all outsourced assets.

I know for a fact that you are far more logical than this.

PS. I am not either for or against, just a worried fellow Brit. If you can give me something to stop my worrying then that would be grand.

o7

dude it's not all about the oil. The oil it's self has a great amount of value aprox 1.4 trillion brittish pounds worth to be extracted over the next 50 years . But the oil revenue is only 15% of Scottish income we a re an incredibly wealthy nation besides the oil. we have an increadbly diverse and health econamy in scotland and despit westminster continually pulling the purse strings we have still managed to retain free highr education free prescriptions and also free care for our ealderly. I have read the white paper as well as the wee blue book . Scotland will and shall be far much more prosperous fair and hopefully wake up the rest of the uk into how corrupt the current westminster system is.

Ah you are reading stats wrong without consideration that there are way less people in Scotland and so naturally, you get less but it is proportionate to how many people you have, so it's not actually less, it's relative.

you say pulling purse strings, yet you guys get a say on our laws and stuff yet we have none on yours, you have it backwards.

Again, you are not looking at stats relative to population.

You have one point I would also like to address when you say your laws it is laws that also cover us I.e. UK wide you don't get to vote on laws within the Welsh assembly either nor the northern irish side of things .


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TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5616	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:14:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175107&find=unread I started talking about it in this thread i made. I am worried for you guys because this romantic notion does not correlate with reality. Come on man, this is no dumber than the BNP wanting all immigrants out and they make it sound very good when in reality, it is not. Please do not tell me that you think that you will be getting that oil. Not only is that a stupid reason for Independence, but it is false. It is owned by BP which is a corporation. whether you get freedom or not, they will still own the oil albeit, most of it. By that logic, the western world should give up all outsourced assets. I know for a fact that you are far more logical than this. PS. I am not either for or against, just a worried fellow Brit. If you can give me something to stop my worrying then that would be grand. o7 That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5618	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:24:00 - [2] - Quote The whole thing seems based off the same logic my friend who is afroglish used to believe. He honestly thought that people looked at him funny because he was black, thought that people looked at him like sht when he got on the bus because he was black. The reality is that people do this type of thing to people regardless and it took me some talking to change his mind to be more in line with reality. Now, you guys think you are getting persecuted and don't have a say in anything, well welcome to the world lol. It's nothing to do with you guys being Scottish, we all get buggered. More to the point, Scots can vote on English laws etc while we cannot vote on yours. You guys get a lot of free stuff that we don't as well. You guys will seriously be missing how good you have it. You are dreaming. I am seeing my bros up north buying into a steaming pile of sht seriously, i really did think that humans were becoming a lot smarter but i guess not. RBS for one will be moving to the UK if this goes through because the economic reality is that you guys will be fked at the behest of some day dreaming fools. YOUR OWN BANK BRUV............ This is about as hyped as destiny, seriously. Again, if you can show me 100% facts that this will benefit the people of Scotland at all then please do but there's already a massive amount of undeniable facts that will ruin you from the get go. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5618	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:27:00 - [3] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175107&find=unread I started talking about it in this thread i made. I am worried for you guys because this romantic notion does not correlate with reality. Come on man, this is no dumber than the BNP wanting all immigrants out and they make it sound very good when in reality, it is not. Please do not tell me that you think that you will be getting that oil. Not only is that a stupid reason for Independence, but it is false. It is owned by BP which is a corporation. whether you get freedom or not, they will still own the oil albeit, most of it. By that logic, the western world should give up all outsourced assets. I know for a fact that you are far more logical than this. PS. I am not either for or against, just a worried fellow Brit. If you can give me something to stop my worrying then that would be grand. o7 dude it's not all about the oil. The oil it's self has a great amount of value aprox 1.4 trillion brittish pounds worth to be extracted over the next 50 years . But the oil revenue is only 15% of Scottish income we a re an incredibly wealthy nation besides the oil. we have an increadbly diverse and health econamy in scotland and despit westminster continually pulling the purse strings we have still managed to retain free highr education free prescriptions and also free care for our ealderly. I have read the white paper as well as the wee blue book . Scotland will and shall be far much more prosperous fair and hopefully wake up the rest of the uk into how corrupt the current westminster system is. Ah you are reading stats wrong without consideration that there are way less people in Scotland and so naturally, you get less but it is proportionate to how many people you have, so it's not actually less, it's relative. you say pulling purse strings, yet you guys get a say on our laws and stuff yet we have none on yours, you have it backwards. Again, you are not looking at stats relative to population. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5618	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:30:00 - [4] - Quote I am seriously worried about you guys, all im getting is very skew whiff logic back. What are the votes at now?. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5618	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:45:00 - [5] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: There is also allot things such as trident, the house of Lords, the monarchy,the new rail link ect that we shall also not have to pay towards instead the funds that would have went there shall be used for the betterment of our country. Scotland it's self through various taxes pays 9.8% of the UK ' S income but recieved 9.3% of its spending this its self shall balance out very quickly as that 9.3% share in spending also includes trident ect. Again, you receive 9.3% because the population is so low. you are not looking at it relatively nor understanding economics either, you are dreaming mate. Trident protects us all, Why wouldn't you want that?. The amount of stuff that will no be longer free will completely destroy that 'cash for betterment' point, especially with your own bank potentially dumping you. You are not looking at reality, you are dreaming. Much like we dream of the houses of parliament randomly blowing up (don't we all), the reality is that we'd going back to the dark ages mate. How are you going to fare when your bank leaves, no one lends Scotland money and everyone now has to pay out the arse for everything that is currently free?, a luxury that we down south that only bums get for some reason. If Scotland was a self sufficient utopia then you'd not have to worry but it is not, far from it. Sugar sandwiches will not pay for anything bruv and I'm going to go mental if you guys start fracking, that sht is toxic. With all these factors, Scotland won't be able to even commerce with the rest of the world. You are not actually showing me anything that is real mate, just dreams based on feeling good rhetoric and it is worrying. Nothing personal, No one likes seeing people making a very bad mistake. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5618	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:46:00 - [6] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: pegasis prime wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175107&find=unread I started talking about it in this thread i made. I am worried for you guys because this romantic notion does not correlate with reality. Come on man, this is no dumber than the BNP wanting all immigrants out and they make it sound very good when in reality, it is not. Please do not tell me that you think that you will be getting that oil. Not only is that a stupid reason for Independence, but it is false. It is owned by BP which is a corporation. whether you get freedom or not, they will still own the oil albeit, most of it. By that logic, the western world should give up all outsourced assets. I know for a fact that you are far more logical than this. PS. I am not either for or against, just a worried fellow Brit. If you can give me something to stop my worrying then that would be grand. o7 dude it's not all about the oil. The oil it's self has a great amount of value aprox 1.4 trillion brittish pounds worth to be extracted over the next 50 years . But the oil revenue is only 15% of Scottish income we a re an incredibly wealthy nation besides the oil. we have an increadbly diverse and health econamy in scotland and despit westminster continually pulling the purse strings we have still managed to retain free highr education free prescriptions and also free care for our ealderly. I have read the white paper as well as the wee blue book . Scotland will and shall be far much more prosperous fair and hopefully wake up the rest of the uk into how corrupt the current westminster system is. Ah you are reading stats wrong without consideration that there are way less people in Scotland and so naturally, you get less but it is proportionate to how many people you have, so it's not actually less, it's relative. you say pulling purse strings, yet you guys get a say on our laws and stuff yet we have none on yours, you have it backwards. Again, you are not looking at stats relative to population. You have one point I would also like to address when you say your laws it is laws that also cover us I.e. UK wide you don't get to vote on laws within the Welsh assembly either nor the northern irish side of things . Yeah but you just kind of agreed with me which is fine, its reality. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5620	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:50:00 - [7] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Local pols over 60% on the yes plus or minus 5% throughout Scotland but bbc reports different. Well, im either going to be saying "I told you so" through gritted teeth while banging my head off a wall OR, it works and i up sticks and move to glasgow, greenock or liverpool lol. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5620	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:52:00 - [8] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: At the end of the day tech if we go independent, and my country is such a sponge then you'll be far better off for it. If ye go independent and do so well (as Cameron himself said we could) i shall great everyone else from the British Isles with the same respect I have always done. Nah i don't think you guys are a sponge at all, i don't see Ireland, Wales or Scotland as a different country either. We are on a tiny fking island and we have strength in unity. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5620	Posted - 2014.09.14 13:56:00 - [9] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Also Scottish politics often sides with the socialist way thinking so you shall be welcome here as a fellow Britain or Scott to be which ever you may choose If it works then I'll be moving up north defo. The government is just a case of 'what cnt do you think is the least cntish' lol. I also love the Scottish accent. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5642	Posted - 2014.09.14 17:47:00 - [10] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I am English and while a lot of English people are acting all 'dickish' around this vote I am happy for what ever the Scottish people decide. Just know this. If you leave the UK, chances are you are going to join the EU straight away and trust me, you do not have independence by being in the EU. The UK needs to vote in UKIP so we can ALL collectively leave the EU and actually trade with the rest of the world. Do you even know how much money we waste every year on the EU? Removing those costs alone would seriously be a huge improvement for the UK economy, not giving away billions every year to the monstrous EU. TLDR - Good luck Scotland but please dont be fooled. [INSERT ANTI UKIP OPINION HERE] What is the deal with UKIP?, i don't know much about them. Edit: Ooooh, what kind of AIDS strain is that?. That was spiffing.