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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.14 13:52:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:I do not have a pony in this race, but I am curious as to what the ramifications of an independent Scotland would be. If the vote is yes, would that inspire Wales and Northern Ireland to do the same?
I don't know about Wales, but Northern Ireland is the interesting one to me. One of their reasons for being in the union includes their ties to Scotland.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.14 21:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Solid post, Ryme.
@Spade - his point was that the UK is spending more on Scotland per head than they're spending on England per head, as well as received more from the UK than it gave to the UK.
Ah, per head, fair enough.
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I really just don't understand why you'd want to leave the UK. 'Independence' is a romantic concept I suppose, but I just can't see any real world benefits to doing it.
He says to an Irishman 
If I were Scottish and voting, I reckon I'd vote to leave. I honestly believe Scotland can and should stake it out on their own.
Am I right? Who knows. Maybe, maybe not. (Tech says no.)
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.14 21:35:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Spademan wrote:
If I were Scottish and voting, I reckon I'd vote to leave.
But why though?
I'll probably get some flak for this, but it seems to me that the UK is holding them back. Renegotiations of the oil fields would have to happen (because of the whole "they're in someone elses territory now" thing, the deal over them is with the UK currently, not Scotland) so the Scots could make a fair bit from that. And there's the fisheries too.
And government, the tories are in power at the moment, but few Scots actually voted for them. They're horrendously under-represented in west minister.
The nukes in Scotland would(should) be gone as well, and the less nukes in the world the better off everyone will be. Finally, now that this whole thing is under way, I'd be fearful that if at this stage a no vote was cast things could get worse for Scotland. A sort of "We're going to make sure you can't try this again" kind of deal.
I'm sure there's legitimate reasons to stay, but I believe that'd be the wrong decision.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:04:00 -
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Just want to wish ya'll the best of luck with the referendum tomorrow. Yes or no, I hope it turns out for the best.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:42:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Spademan wrote:Just want to wish ya'll the best of luck with the referendum tomorrow. Yes or no, I hope it turns out for the best. It will most likely be for the worst but i 'hope' it won't be. So much logic and factual stuff in the vote and even in this thread has been said yet it is simply ignored for fantasy and hope........
Both sides have legitimate reasons for their stances. Likewise, both sides have people who have little logic to their thought process.
Quote:How can you have hope when reality is ignored?..
I'm an optimist.
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