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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:38:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:al nize mk2 wrote:Most of what I read on this forum and see on youtube and even hear on my headset when I squad with randoms - is how much of a crutch everything is. How everything is OP and anyone using anything is just on easymode..
So the questions are
What's a real man's fitting? (or a real woman's fitting) What do I have to use to NOT get laughed out of the game for being a fumbling child?
As far as I am concerned, if you are not using a burst HMG, Thale's sniper rifle, or combat rifle you are not using a crutch. +rr for me...as far as guns go..but then I also think scouts of every flavor deserve to be nerfed
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:44:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:al nize mk2 wrote:Tech De Ra wrote: If you have a mouse is so easy mode
as for horribly OP, you know how the HMG's are about 800 dps?
well this does over double that
at up to 80m range at full damage
0m-110m range effective range
its pretty silly, it was OP before it got its last buff
I've noticed a few more LR's and they do eat you up pretty quickly. I might actually buy a 2nd keyboard for the ps3 and run kbm to show how stupid it is it's stupid enough with a ds4, but the low framerate and lack of precision from a controller makes you miss quite a lot at long range Makes you miss allot I run lr on ds3 only and as for op no its not the lr in its area is balanced with the other long range guns...The lr and tack ar..are the only non broken long rang rifles ...Both the scr..and the rr work in cqc as well as medium and long range .Unlike the lr or TAC ar...
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When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:45:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:al nize mk2 wrote: So the commando would be the ideal carrier? LR and AR sounds like the perfect match..
Commando is best against single target and shield heavies due to the fast damage ramp Assault is best against groups of enemies and armor heavies, due to the extra 20 shots they get from a heat cycle, so at the end of the clip you are literally just sweeping the beam over many people and they melt You keep sounding more and more foolish dmg does not ramp up faster on a commando
Dmg mods effect LR's base dmg..Not the damage multiplier ..The same goes for the commando bonus ..your feeding this guy some serious lies lol.
The Assault is really the only way to go with lr..but if u want u can listen to Lord scrubby here ..
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 14:02:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:al nize mk2 wrote: So the commando would be the ideal carrier? LR and AR sounds like the perfect match..
Commando is best against single target and shield heavies due to the fast damage ramp Assault is best against groups of enemies and armor heavies, due to the extra 20 shots they get from a heat cycle, so at the end of the clip you are literally just sweeping the beam over many people and they melt You keep sounding more and more foolish dmg does not ramp up faster on a commando Dmg mods effect LR's base dmg..Not the damage multiplier ..The same goes for the commando bonus ..your feeding this guy some serious lies lol. The Assault is really the only way to go with lr..but if u want u can listen to Lord scrubby here .. its a flat 10% bonus to damage, this applies to the ramp While the ramp doesn't change, the bonuses after it do Prove it..and show in your math how even if your right . 10% on 1.04...is better than 20 rounds more It's not. BEtter imo.my last 20 rounds are worth more than the commando dmg.
But I still don't think it effects the multiplier ....your telling. This dude to put one of the hardest guns to use ona suit that will make it worthless lol . Your saying that commando raises viziam dmg modifier from 1.04 to 1.144..only ccp could say as the stats invisible
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:42:00 -
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Tech De its a flat 10% bonus to damage, this applies to the ramp
While the ramp doesn't change, the bonuses after it do[/quote wrote: Prove it..and show in your math how even if your right . 10% on 1.04...is better than 20 rounds more It's not. BEtter imo.my last
the 10% bonus on commando isnt affected by stacking, which is where your maths breaks down (otherwise you would be correct and the assault would always be better than commando)
Commando 1*1.1*1.07 = 1.177 Assault 1*1.07*1.0581*1.0364 = 1.17378 (~1.174)
so for 1/3rd of the fitting cost of the upgrades, the commando still gets about +0.5% over the assault
Generally i wouldn't use the 3rd damage mod on the assault and put something homosexual like a shield extender on, i dont think a 3% damage boost after stacking really warrents 9 PG, so i normally put something else there, at which point the commando gets +4% over the assault
now factor in the fact that the commando's single superior damage mod also applies to a 2nd weapon, its just an extremely efficient suit if you can get over the god awful speed
and yes, the 20 rounds at the end of the heat capacity is tonnes more powerful than 4%, but it takes a good amount of time for the the damage to ramp to that level, generally shield suits are dead long before that point
Damage mods don't effect the modifier...Neither does the commando bonus
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:44:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Prove it..and show in your math how even if your right . 10% on 1.04...is better than 20 rounds more It's not. BEtter imo.my last 20 rounds are worth more than the commando dmg. Commandos raise Raw DPS for the primary weapons. Having more "Bullets per magazine" does NOT raise DPS. It raises your damage potential while retaining the same DPS, and minimizes "downtime" by prolonging the period between reloads. If the user can aim better, the 10% DPS increase will win the firefight, if the opponent is in a prolonged firefight then the 25% increase in ammunition per magazine will be better for a firefight. DPS =/= Magazine Size =/= Alpha Three very different things for very different situations. 20 extra rounds on lr do in fact raise it's dps because it a dmg over time gun ..those last 20 rounds deal more dmg
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:53:00 -
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After 2 complex dmg mods it's better to run 1 enhanced
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 17:02:00 -
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This is even a test that YOU provided data points to, seriously mort[/quote]
Doesn't matter even if your right The assault is still definitively better..20 extra rounds + it has a better tank.
And I didn't give them the stats for the lr my master did this lovely amarian slave only knows what her mistress teaches her
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2014.09.12 17:07:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:This is even a test that YOU provided data points to, seriously mort Doesn't matter even if your right The assault is still definitively better..20 extra rounds + it has a better tank. And I didn't give them the stats for the lr my master did this lovely amarian slave only knows what her mistress reaches her
Yes, i agree with you the assault is better with the 20 extra rounds
the problem is those 20 extra rounds are at the end, the small extra damage from the commando plus the bonused 2nd weapon is much more powerful vs targets that dont need those +20 rounds (non heavies basically)[/quote] That's why you fire into your cover n death touch em
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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