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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:59:00 -
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I don't want to discuss all the other changes, i just want to talk about zoom, not even rendering distance, which is horrible even with a Thale.
Today i've tested and filmed the zoom level of all the variants of SR at 400 meters, the zoom level is terrible, in all non-Thale SR. The current zoom of normal SR, start to be decent at 200-250 meters, charge is fine at 200 meters, tac at 250 meters. Thale zoom is fine for a sniper rifle, it's good a 400+ meters like it is at 200.
Now, i understand that Thale zoom can be a bit too much, but the difference between Thale's zoom and other SR zoom is abyssal.
If you want to eliminate Thale's zoom level, at least increase other sniper rifle zoom, i don't understand this war against zoom level.
PS: i forgot to change settings on my camera and the video is more than horrible, i will film another match.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.11 10:16:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I don't want to discuss all the other changes, i just want to talk about zoom, not even rendering distance, which is horrible even with a Thale.
Today i've tested and filmed the zoom level of all the variants of SR at 400 meters, the zoom level is terrible, in all non-Thale SR. The current zoom of normal SR, start to be decent at 200-250 meters, charge is fine at 200 meters, tac at 250 meters. Thale zoom is fine for a sniper rifle, it's good a 400+ meters like it is at 200.
Now, i understand that Thale zoom can be a bit too much, but the difference between Thale's zoom and other SR zoom is abyssal.
If you want to eliminate Thale's zoom level, at least increase other sniper rifle zoom, i don't understand this war against zoom level.
PS: i forgot to change settings on my camera and the video is more than horrible, i will film another match. It isn't a war against zoom. It's a war against snipers sitting 300m in the redline getting kills with practically 0 risk.
"lolsuicide DS" isn't a vaild counter. Neither is "counter sniping".
It shouldn't take a sniper to kill a sniper,that's like 1.7 when tankers were saying "it should take a tank to kill a tank" or "A whole squad of AV"
CCP has finally taken steps to reduce the amount of ridiculousness it takes to kill snipers.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.09.11 10:28:00 -
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Meee One wrote: It isn't a war against zoom. It's a war against snipers sitting 300m in the redline getting kills with practically 0 risk.
"lolsuicide DS" isn't a vaild counter. Neither is "counter sniping".
It shouldn't take a sniper to kill a sniper,that's like 1.7 when tankers were saying "it should take a tank to kill a tank" or "A whole squad of AV"
CCP has finally taken steps to reduce the amount of ridiculousness it takes to kill snipers.
It is a war against zoom. It's not about range, i don't care if have 400 meters, 300 meters or even less, but i need zoom, to see my enemies, to provide intel, to spot uplinks.
PSN: ogamega
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.09.11 10:35:00 -
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Meee One wrote:It isn't a war against zoom. It's a war against snipers sitting 300m in the redline getting kills with practically 0 risk.
"lolsuicide DS" isn't a vaild counter. Neither is "counter sniping".
It shouldn't take a sniper to kill a sniper,that's like 1.7 when tankers were saying "it should take a tank to kill a tank" or "A whole squad of AV"
CCP has finally taken steps to reduce the amount of ridiculousness it takes to kill snipers.
It's a war against all snipers, period. People who snipe from the redline are usually no more than 50-100 meters in. Any more than that and you can't see anything to shoot.
Counter-sniping is a valid counter. The fact that you don't want to do it doesn't make it invalid. And no, it's not the same as 1.7 tankers. Counter-sniping doesn't take a whole squad working together simultaneously, snipers aren't as durable as tanks, and tanks aren't given to you from the start for FREE (ISK and SP) like a sniper fit is.
The range nerf will do NOTHING to stop redline sniping. People who snipe from the redline aren't going to say "well, I'll just have to get closer", they're going to say "well, I'm just gonna sit her and do nothing then". The only thing the range nerf WILL do is make it harder for real snipers in the common battle area to take out people in the opposing redline.
Any real sniper (the guys who usually snipe from within the common battle area) with half a brain is NEVER EVER going to do their thing where any moron with an AR can just run up and empty a clip into their back. It's never going to happen. Stop trying to force it.
So good job. All the QQing will do is turn a bunch of redline snipers into even more useless AFKers, and make it harder to kill them. Congrats. |
Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:29:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Meee One wrote:It isn't a war against zoom. It's a war against snipers sitting 300m in the redline getting kills with practically 0 risk.
"lolsuicide DS" isn't a vaild counter. Neither is "counter sniping".
It shouldn't take a sniper to kill a sniper,that's like 1.7 when tankers were saying "it should take a tank to kill a tank" or "A whole squad of AV"
CCP has finally taken steps to reduce the amount of ridiculousness it takes to kill snipers. It's a war against all snipers, period. People who snipe from the redline are usually no more than 50-100 meters in. Any more than that and you can't see anything to shoot. Counter-sniping is a valid counter. The fact that you don't want to do it doesn't make it invalid. And no, it's not the same as 1.7 tankers. Counter-sniping doesn't take a whole squad working together simultaneously, snipers aren't as durable as tanks, and tanks aren't given to you from the start for FREE (ISK and SP) like a sniper fit is. The range nerf will do NOTHING to stop redline sniping. People who snipe from the redline aren't going to say "well, I'll just have to get closer", they're going to say "well, I'm just gonna sit her and do nothing then". The only thing the range nerf WILL do is make it harder for real snipers in the common battle area to take out people in the opposing redline. Any real sniper (the guys who usually snipe from within the common battle area) with half a brain is NEVER EVER going to do their thing where any moron with an AR can just run up and empty a clip into their back. It's never going to happen. Stop trying to force it. So good job. All the QQing will do is turn a bunch of redline snipers into even more useless AFKers, and make it harder to kill them. Congrats.
Well said. I'm curious as to how everyone intends to kill them now. The charge is the ohk tool but has 50m less range. The tac has much less range. So the only option is the standard variants. Ok now it won't always take a thales to kill a thales. But Good luck when your trying to kill the new pro sent red line snipers.. But hey maybe I'm wrong. |
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