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Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2014.09.09 22:27:00 -
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I was just suddenly curious if everyone"s favorite active dev had anything to say about that whole reload animation sprint skip whatchamacallit.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.09.09 22:28:00 -
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Thing is I don't think it really matters  . That seems like it would be a client-side issue.
Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
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Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2014.09.09 22:33:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Thing is I don't think it really matters . That seems like it would be a client-side issue.
Hm, good point. But still, I'm curious.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:10:00 -
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LOL you're trying this again? No one really cares....cause...wait for it...everybody uses it and it's impact is not great compared to some other issues people feels need to be addressed first
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Foehammerr
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:54:00 -
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Literally every single FPS has this in it. It's not a big deal.
Rangers Lead The Way!
Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.10 00:10:00 -
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I've done this ever since I found out it exists in every FPS made. Only one I didn't do it in was Resistance 2 because the speeds were decent and I wasn't aware it existed.
Anywho, there are more important issues at hand instead of a bug that EVERYONE abuses. |
Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.10 01:40:00 -
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... uh are we talking about reload canceling? thats not a glitch. thats just timing reloads right.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.09.10 01:54:00 -
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Destiny has it.
Reason #1 why I'll be playing that too.
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2014.09.10 02:03:00 -
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Why are you even bringing this up? This is common practice in shooting (FPS) video games. Melee buttons often override animations for various actions, reload being one of them. How the game handles it is up to the team. The timing changes are miniscule and would take modification of client side code. Which will never happen on Dust514 ever again.
Learn a little video game history, then rant. It will not help you one bit here, but you won't sound like you don't know what you are talking about. 
In New Eden no SP is wisely spent.
CCP will Nerf the reason right out from under you.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
599
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Posted - 2014.09.10 02:12:00 -
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As a closed beta vet, Sprint Cancelling was not in the game. You have to wait for the entire animation to finish.
Some people, including myself, brought up that many games have Sprint Cancelling or reload while sprinting (a Battlefield feature) and wanted to see one or the other, or even both put in the game.
The result? We received from CCP the ability to sprint cancel. It's not something that started out in this game, it's something that CCP IMPLEMENTED into it, and one of the rare times I've seen them listen to player feedback.
So CCP Rattati and CCP LogiBro and the rest of the crew are probably going to tell you, "It's a feature", and I will add, "one that players such as ourselves suggested and watched get implemented. Something that we can all agree is a good thing all around."
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Summ Dude
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:55:00 -
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Some people seem to mistake "I wonder if Rattati has an opinion on X" for "I want Rattati to remove X". I'm mostly curious because as I recall, CCP Shanghai has so far been very particular about every part of Dust looking "spotless", and the current animation skip simply looks like a bug to me.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:47:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:Some people seem to mistake "I wonder if Rattati has an opinion on X" for "I want Rattati to remove X". I'm mostly curious because as I recall, CCP Shanghai has so far been very particular about every part of Dust looking "spotless", and the current animation skip simply looks like a bug to me.
You're an idiot
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:54:00 -
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oh hey summ i didnt realize it was you, but yeah like i said its not a glitch its deliberate.
its a reward for timing it right to get an instant reload.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:29:00 -
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Last I remember seeing him talk about it, they were looking into the problem, and it was more difficult to either identify or fix, maybe both.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.12 01:01:00 -
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Lol @ everyone getting mad at OP
I was around back when they added it in, but I'd like to think that its obvious that its an unintended side effect of the ability to cancel a reload that... hold on, let me go back and bold and underline the word cancel... players demanded so much, so that they could switch to a sidearm or run away in dire situations instead of awkwardly strafing while they were locked in the reload animation.
They probably decided people would get mad having to constantly reload because they started sprinting when it looked like the animation stopped when there was still a fraction of a second left, so they added a margin of error where the reload would be considered complete. And, shock, people figured that out and started abusing it.
I mean, why would they intentionally make it possible to skip part of the reload animation, when there are high multiplier skills for every weapon to shorten the reload time? Wouldn't they rather you sank SP into those skills?
Hold that thought.
What are your opinions on me spamming jump with a cardiac regulator fitted minmatar sentinel to move around as much as I want while charging a breach forge gun? I use this constantly. You're cool with it right? It takes skill for me to use! It's not a bug, its a feature.  |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.12 01:19:00 -
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It seems built in tbh. As soon as the mag is in, you can skip the rest. The timing seems too perfect to be a glitch or an accident. |
Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2014.09.14 08:58:00 -
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Bump.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.09.14 09:19:00 -
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Its called reload cancel and every decent FPS has it.
They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of:
"GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.09.14 09:22:00 -
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You know WHY this feature exists?
So that those EXTREMELY ANNOYING moments when you THINK the animation is done, and you start sprinting, you don't suddenly lose the whole reload, forcing you to start over.
That killed me a lot of times during the closed beta.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.14 11:22:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:Some people seem to mistake "I wonder if Rattati has an opinion on X" for "I want Rattati to remove X". I'm mostly curious because as I recall, CCP Shanghai has so far been very particular about every part of Dust looking "spotless", and the current animation skip simply looks like a bug to me.
If you make a thread about it and say it looks like a bug then clearly your actual intention is to get it removed, regardless of whether you come out and say it.
The real issue around emptying your weapon is that when you switch to sidearm in the heat of combat the damn game brings out the sidearm then puts you back to your (empty) primary. Thats the kind of rage-inducing brokeness you should be complaining about. |
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.09.14 15:16:00 -
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I recall this topic...
Lots of people saying that "every" game has it, when many don't (classic CS, Arma, etc.). I actually prefer something like progressive reloads, but it's a non-issue nowadays anyway. Legion remains a ghost, and Dust doesn't have development for new features. I'm honestly not sure if this even could be "fixed" by the current staff with just a hotfix. Reload cancelling has always been a goofy, reality bending thing imho, but it's certainly popular with the hardcore CoD-type crowd.
Dren&Templar Tragedy.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.09.14 17:09:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:I was just suddenly curious if everyone"s favorite active dev had anything to say about that whole reload animation sprint skip whatchamacallit.
I have a problem with it, because it makes the 'Rapid Reload' skill seen less useful. I think you should have to fully complete the reload animation.
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I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.09.14 17:27:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:I was just suddenly curious if everyone"s favorite active dev had anything to say about that whole reload animation sprint skip whatchamacallit.
Have you seen that video with all the Bugs in DUST? most of these things have been reported to CCP's bug department for 2 years.
Seriously the guys that work at CCP are just lazy, you can tell in everything that CCP Shanghai or Reykjavik or Newcastle or even the Late CCP Atlanta has produced.
Everything they have developed for the last 3-5 years just screams of lazyness and complacency.
I used to be a CCP Champion for what they stood for as a development company that I have been on a ride with since Beta on EVE online.
Somewhere along the lines they just stopped caring about the product they produce and the quality of it and the developers and team leaders just became about MEMEMEMEMEMEMMEMEME,and my feelings.
The drama at actual CCP workplaces and the inability for team leaders to even work well with another team leader... Half of the employees not getting along with the other half... It comes off in the products they have produced. Dispassionate, buggy, unfinished, laggy , promises not even half kept, no PR...
CCP would of been better building a family instead of just taking on anyone that put in a resume for the position.
I Don't see CCP having a good future, to much direct competition about to take from it's market share and no real plans to build anything to compete. |
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