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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:32:00 -
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Does anyone actually use them on medium or commando suits?
In all of my time I cannot think of even one occasion where I saw a cloak on a suit OTHER than a scout suit.
Are there any even semi viable tactics with funky cloak fits for mediums / commandos?
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gustavo acosta
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
239
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:36:00 -
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I've seen logis run it on serious fits, but eh I don't think they do too well with it...
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2928
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:38:00 -
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Cloaks eat PG/CPU like a fat kid eats cake. Never put them on anything but scouts.
Scouts have faster walk/sprint speeds too, which maximizes the cloak duration.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:41:00 -
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I've seen a few commandos with them. Some logis as well. |
Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:42:00 -
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ive got a double damped commando ak.0 with a cloak i sometimes use for the jollys, jokes usually on me though
lets just burn this motherfucker down
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Kyr Kitar
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:45:00 -
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I have a cloak fitting on a Commando C-I series, had to use a PG enhancer I believe. All in all you end up using a lot of CPU and PG on the cloak and like I did use one of your precious modules on a pg or cpu buff just to fit other stuff. I tried it with a rail rifle and a sniper. It was alright but to say I got good use out of the cloak would be lying. If I ran cloaked, I still got shot, people saw me. I only had the basic cloak because of, well, fitting limitations so it doesn't last that long. After a while I just swapped it out for an uplink and upgraded the weapons a little.
Can't say I recommend it. Have not tried on proto suit. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4036
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:46:00 -
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Glitch116
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
144
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:49:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Does anyone actually use them on medium or commando suits?
In all of my time I cannot think of even one occasion where I saw a cloak on a suit OTHER than a scout suit.
Are there any even semi viable tactics with funky cloak fits for mediums / commandos?
it is not bad if used to move around in a commando but the profile and size of those fat boys hamper its usefulness nice for long range fits but really falls apart at mid to close ranges plus commandos already got some fitting troubles and cloaks eat ALOT of PG/CPU
i have seen some very good logis use it as means to break away from a fight as well as to move with a light fast moving squad
great for moving around but once again it falls apart because most scout will see you even if you damp
so it can be used on a light weight speed logi for running equipment into a hotzone or for breaking out of tight firefights to support your flankers
i have used it on a minnie speed logi and it works for getting away from the main horde and lets me support the guys pushing the enemies flank or attacking a far point.
the big thing you have to keep in mind is that it is visual only scouts will still see you as well as active scans but if you lvl damping to 5 you can slip by everyone but the scouts so keep an eye open at all times looking for that shimmer most scouts if they see you cloaked will laugh and try to run up to shoot you point blank cause they think you are being dumb but if you know what you are doing you can use that to your advantage and turn things around
so be smart avoid the big fights and stay on the move and you can make a cloak logi work
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.09 22:59:00 -
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I remember hearing rumors about this one player who runs a Caldari Commando with 3 Complex Myrofibs and a Cloak, meleeing everything that his stubby little hands happen to come across.
But other than that, no I haven't seen others barring a few Logis. Though I have experimented with STD Cloaks on my Assault and Commando, but you honestly don't need them.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:01:00 -
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Its a rarity but I do see them. I've seen them on a Commando with a shotty and on a CalLogi with a shotty. The latter had me laughing hysterically.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
888
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:03:00 -
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I wouldn't use it. Only maybe for a lol fit but it use soo much CPU and PG that its not worth it
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3325
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Posted - 2014.09.10 00:24:00 -
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I've seen a Gallente Medium Frame G/1 - Series run it with a shotgun. |
medomai grey
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
975
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Posted - 2014.09.10 00:31:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Does anyone actually use them on medium or commando suits?
In all of my time I cannot think of even one occasion where I saw a cloak on a suit OTHER than a scout suit.
Are there any even semi viable tactics with funky cloak fits for mediums / commandos? People have used cloaks on commandos before.
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
2758
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Posted - 2014.09.10 00:49:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Does anyone actually use them on medium or commando suits?
In all of my time I cannot think of even one occasion where I saw a cloak on a suit OTHER than a scout suit.
Are there any even semi viable tactics with funky cloak fits for mediums / commandos?
I've seen them, yes, and they light up on the minimap like Christmas, and it's as easy as following the bouncing red chevron to find them. They are useless on anything other than scouts which can disappear with low scan profiles.
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1513
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Posted - 2014.09.10 03:45:00 -
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So the general consensus is people occasionally use it but would not recommend it or even have any funky fits to share?
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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.09.10 03:55:00 -
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Actually got a STD cloak to fit on my proto min assault. Had to fit a cpu and pg module and had my other 2 slots with a rep and cardio enhancer.
I actually had some fun being a rebel assault trying to be like a scout. Of course scouts and anyone with a scanner would see you but very lol fit if any. Too much cpu and pg to fit any role decency. Only really viable on scouts, working as intended
My biggest LOL moment is when i ran into a squad of reds with heavy/assault combo and they had me low on life and chased me to know end. Found some open space around a corner and activated my cloak and didn't move.
That moment when the reds turned the corner (LOL) and didn't see me there because they were right on my butt and no way i could have gotten out of Line of Sight that fast. I watched the reds run circles around me twice before going back. No one thought to look for a cloak'd assault. Needless to say i shot and killed them as they made their way back. I know they were yelling WTF when it happened.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2137
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Posted - 2014.09.10 04:07:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:So the general consensus is people occasionally use it but would not recommend it or even have any funky fits to share?
I had a super cheap cloaky Sever Logi mad bomber fit. Then after comparing the shields and everything else against the Minja I punched myself in the face. Man I was such a dumbass.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.09.10 06:02:00 -
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It used to be a more common thing before the cloaks got nerfed and you could get your usage out of a basic. Now it's pretty rare to see, and I don't think I've spotted any medium or heavy frames using it...  I guess that means it's working for them~!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1788
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Posted - 2014.09.10 07:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cloaks eat PG/CPU like a fat kid eats cake. Never put them on anything but scouts.
Scouts have faster walk/sprint speeds too, which maximizes the cloak duration.
Logis get the PG/CPU reduction too (unless they nerfed that already?). Even so, a logi profile is too high for it to be very useful. What's the point of being cloaked when you have a red marker over your head? Also they're slow, which as you say limits cloak utility. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
2003
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:26:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Does anyone actually use them on medium or commando suits?
In all of my time I cannot think of even one occasion where I saw a cloak on a suit OTHER than a scout suit.
Are there any even semi viable tactics with funky cloak fits for mediums / commandos?
Welcome to the only thing in the game that uses the EVE concept of suit specific bonuses to fit an item.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
12092
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:41:00 -
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You didn't see them because they know how to sneak without a crutch unlike most scouts, this just seals the deal 
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1515
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Posted - 2014.09.10 15:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You didn't see them because they know how to sneak without a crutch unlike most scouts, this just seals the deal
Haha you're damn right. I laugh at scouts that think I cant see them. Usually just before I try and pick them off from range with the trusty laser or Tac.
I suppose real infiltration specialists are few and far between.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2979
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:43:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Logis get the PG/CPU reduction too (unless they nerfed that already?)
CCP Rattati had it slated for Charlie, then pulled it.
I'm okay with it. A cloak is a piece of equipment *shrug* Give those crazy logibros more tools to work with. Maybe a sneaky nanohive laying ninja would be usefu-...
*dream sequence*
Random blueberry pulls the trigger on his AR only to hear the telltale *click* of an empty magazine. "God damn it... and out of sidearm rounds too..." Suddenly the constant ebbing and flowing of nanite waves washes over him and his ammo counter climbs. At his feet rests a Ishukone Gauged nanohive. "Thank you NanoNinja..."
*end dream sequence*
...I have to go make a fitting...
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1518
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Logis get the PG/CPU reduction too (unless they nerfed that already?) CCP Rattati had it slated for Charlie, then pulled it. I'm okay with it. A cloak is a piece of equipment *shrug* Give those crazy logibros more tools to work with. Maybe a sneaky nanohive laying ninja would be usefu-... *dream sequence* Random blueberry pulls the trigger on his AR only to hear the telltale *click* of an empty magazine. "God damn it... and out of sidearm rounds too..." Suddenly the constant ebbing and flowing of nanite waves washes over him and his ammo counter climbs. At his feet rests a Ishukone Gauged nanohive. "Thank you NanoNinja..." *end dream sequence* ...I have to go make a fitting...
Can we make this a thing? Im going to make a fit just like that next time I'm online! lol
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2979
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:46:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Can we make this a thing? I'm going to make a fit just like that next time I'm online! lol
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3984
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Can we make this a thing? I'm going to make a fit just like that next time I'm online! lol Train others in the way of the NanoNinja. Spread the word. Let no merc go un-supplied.
What they need is an icon letting you know someone is low on ammo the same way they let an injector user know someone is dead and needs reviving.
That would help a lot I think.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2979
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:54:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Can we make this a thing? I'm going to make a fit just like that next time I'm online! lol Train others in the way of the NanoNinja. Spread the word. Let no merc go un-supplied. What they need is an icon letting you know someone is low on ammo the same way they let an injector user know someone is dead and needs reviving. That would help a lot I think.
What would qualify as low ammo?
10% or less? 25%?
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1518
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:55:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Can we make this a thing? I'm going to make a fit just like that next time I'm online! lol Train others in the way of the NanoNinja. Spread the word. Let no merc go un-supplied. What they need is an icon letting you know someone is low on ammo the same way they let an injector user know someone is dead and needs reviving. That would help a lot I think.
God damn, why do we not already have this!?
I would say anything below 25% is low ammo right?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3984
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:02:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Can we make this a thing? I'm going to make a fit just like that next time I'm online! lol Train others in the way of the NanoNinja. Spread the word. Let no merc go un-supplied. What they need is an icon letting you know someone is low on ammo the same way they let an injector user know someone is dead and needs reviving. That would help a lot I think. God damn, why do we not already have this!? I would say anything below 25% is low ammo right?
25% sounds as good a place as any.
Edit: The problem is this is a user interface issue, which will likely take a real patch to input 
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1721
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:06:00 -
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Seen them on commandos. Not very well employed, but seen it done.
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