Jathniel
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Posted - 2014.09.11 03:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:All right, this may get interesting.
First let me thank the CPM, Barbershop, dedicated snipers and Iron Wolf Saber for a lot of feedback and information gathering. In the end, it's going to be CCP, that makes the most informed decision we can, so please don't blame them for the bad things, and pat them on the back for the good things.
The intent is to bring snipers closer to the battle, and specifically not have to rely on countersniping a Thale's with a Thale's. Boosting headshot damage modifiers will reward skilled snipers, and make countersniping and heavy take-downs way more feasible.
We think these are moderate proposals and are intended to be buffs to the role, but will also increase the risk of the sniper, and that is intended. We want there to be a proper range progression from novaknife to sniper rifle, and a place on the battle field for each range bracket.
Now to the design goals/intent. Please try to frame your feedback so it is relative to these roles.
Sniper Rifle - the Suppressor, enough firepower to line up enough bodyshots to suppress, kill stragglers and countersnipe
Highest range, medium clip and medium ammo, sustainable dps High damage - High headshot modifier 300% (from 196%) New Effective range - 450 Reticule - New Sniper reticule based on Plasma cannon
Charged Sniper Rifle - the Executioner, one shot-one kill type
Trades range and ROF for alpha damage, high headshot multiplier and highest native damage, smallest clip and ammo High damage - Very high headshot modifier 350% (from 196%) New Effective Range - 400 Reticule - New Sniper reticule based on Plasma cannon
Tactical Sniper Rifle - the Rifleman, stand and shoot, and has enough ROF and damage output to effectively take down approaching enemies. (basically super TAR)
High damage - high headshot modifier - 250% (from 196%) Main change - Increased ROF, clip size and ammo, direct damage New Effective Range - 350 Reticule - the current circle to allow shorter range engagements and snap shots
Keeping all ranges well out of Forge gun ranges and retaining enough range to be effective.
The Thale's zoom and range will be adjusted properly to fit thes design goals, ie. the zoom will be adapted and the current zoom reduced.
We do not want to touch stability, sway, nor accuracy in this pass, so please refrain from posting such comments.
Please try to keep this civil and constructive, and to the point. There will be no ranting tolerated here, we have had enough in recent threads. Talk about the points, what we missed, what we did right and do not project what you think other people or CCP know or think about snipers. Just your personal feedback.
Thanks!
Psh... these are basically MY recommendations... minus the sway balances. No credit is ever given. lol
You say, you're not touching stability, sway, nor accuracy... that may be fine and dandy with the normal and charge sniper, but if you bring the tactical sniper up close as a dmr, with a higher rof, and you DO NOT add a proper recoil penalty... it WILL become the next FOTM.
I guarantee it.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Jathniel
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Posted - 2014.09.11 03:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:George Moros wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Charge sniper is already the body shotter hence its attraction currently.
Current charge sniper has a range of 600m. Reducing the range to 400m (or even 350) will make the rifle lose much of it's "allure". Especially if it exists only in a 47k ISK proto variant (which I'm against). Also, body shotter or not, if you score a headshot with a (current) charge, you'll OHK almost everything but a heavy. This is not what I'm proposing. I'm simply against the idea that all snipers should so heavily rely on headshots to be effective. AFAIC, standard variant could be made as a "body shotter", and charge as a "head shotter". As long as people have the option to choose what suits them best, this balancing of sniper rifles can only make the game better and more interesting. Dunno the tactical seems to rely more on its RoF from what I am seeing.
The tactical is going to be the new favorite.
We can say "shut up about the sway" as much as we want, but if it is going to be a weapon suitable for closer ranges with higher rate of fire. It will need a damage nerf, and a proper kick penalty.
I'd say bring it's rof and damage more in line with the bolt pistol. It will need to have good recoil behind every shot to prevent it from becoming fotm.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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