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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 13:54:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:People seem to dislike that I speak the truth. Stop insulting me just because you dislike my opinion.
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You people are seriously childish. If you cannot recognize what I'm saying as fact then you are warped and not listening to reason.
[...] So, is it your opinion, or is it a fact? Can't be both.
Anywho, our stats aren't that much better than any other suits'.
What we have, EWAR, can be played on mediums and heavies, too, just don't expect it to be as good as a scout's.
REs can be used on any suit.
You stated the fact that we have less health, but did you also take into account the Sentinel resistances bonus? They can survive an RE attack, you know?
We're not much faster than a medium frame of the same race. No, really! It's true!
Did you know cloaks DON'T make you invisible? Shocker!
I can scan scouts with my Gallogi, so there's a counter.
Another one is the HMG. Did you know that weapon tears people to pieces? Scouts even more so, no matter how much they tank. So, I believe this a rock, paper, scissors type of counter.
Anyways, got too lazy to keep proving you why scouts aren't as OP as you thought they were.
With love, A scout/heavy/assault (but I really love playing as a scout) |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 14:00:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I never felt min scouts as problem, they are the only balanced scout because the lack of EW bonus.
But i have all the classes in different char, i must agree, when something goes wrong the directions are 2 scout or heavy. Because they're supposed to be the two opposite sides of an extreme according to a medium frame? One side has the health and ++ber DPS while the other has speed and ewar.
Seems balanced. |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 19:59:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Joel II X wrote:
Did you know cloaks DON'T make you invisible? Shocker!
I can scan scouts with my Gallogi, so there's a counter.
There is no scanning in the game, passive or active, that can scan a properly fitted scout. Any scout, pick whichever one you want. This is a mathematical fact of how dampening and precision work in Dust, and Im surprised people continue to insist that scanning will detect scouts. It will detect ****** scouts. I, for one, am not worried about ****** scouts. I'm worried about the smart ones. If you're not worried about ****** scouts, then your problem is null.
Most scouts of today are terribad. Not only that, but it is difficult to dodge a proto Gallogi with a Duvolle Focused without the cloak (I don't count it because it's an active equipment, not passive). And even if you DON'T pick them up, it'll tell you that there's an error around and (I hope) you'd be smart enough to know that's a heavily dampened scout.
I detect plenty of scouts just because most are terrible and refuse to use enough dampeners.
Are you suggesting to bring the old focused back? The one with, what was it, 15dB? Lol no. |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:01:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Joel II X wrote:shaman oga wrote:I never felt min scouts as problem, they are the only balanced scout because the lack of EW bonus.
But i have all the classes in different char, i must agree, when something goes wrong the directions are 2 scout or heavy. Because they're supposed to be the two opposite sides of an extreme according to a medium frame? One side has the health and ++ber DPS while the minority of the other uses speed and ewar. The majority are tanked up shotgun newbs. Seems balanced. Fixed. I'd agree awhile back, but I'm starting to see less and less tanked scouts. Only ones I see are cal scouts with 300 shields and 200 armor, but that's like once every 20 or so matches. |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:21:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Commando > a bucket of horse manure > scout
The only change I would potentially make to scouts is to drop their equipment slots to 1, so the logi has a reason to avoid using it. Agree on the logi part.
Other than that, I just see it as QQ. |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.10 02:12:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Joel II X wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Commando > a bucket of horse manure > scout
The only change I would potentially make to scouts is to drop their equipment slots to 1, so the logi has a reason to avoid using it. Agree on the logi part. Other than that, I just see it as QQ. With the introduction of all the other racial scouts I wondered why it has 2 equipment slots. Right now I run a cloak and uplinks on it and consistantly get 1500+ wp per match. No joke. That second equipment slot makes the scout too strong imho. When complaining about EWAR, that's kind of what the scout suit is for. Comparing my Cal assault and Cal scout I think CCP should: - Remove the scout's extra equipment slot - Swap their shield regen values The two equipment slots was given because plenty of people cried for it. "Bu- but if we only have one equipment, how will we use a cloak AND whatever we currently use?"
I think I wanted two equipment slots, too back then, but I regret that decision. Scouts should go back to one and lose the extra CPU/PG. |
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