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CUSE TOWN333
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Posted - 2014.09.09 05:36:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:1. Commandos, Logis and Assaults can all use REs.
2. Mediums have more slots so they can add things to make their suit more efficient. (Shield Regulators, Energizers, and Rechargers) If a medium frame, more specifically an Assault isn't looking for ways to make their shield or armor tank style last longer than they're a crappy Assault. Throwing on one regulator/recharger/armor rep isn't going to hurt you. It'll help you die less and fight longer.
3. Scouts have only been "OP" since cloaks and new scouts, before cloaks not many people ran scout unless they truly had an interest in it. Now everyone is a scout so they can tank, gank and be hidden.
Ask any of the other scouts on this board and they can tell you how it was pre-Amarr/Caldari scouts.
Also if you're dying to scouts all the day maybe you should look around your surroundings before going all head first like so many heavies do, because they think, "I haz so muc HP!! Lololoolol burst hmg"
Use your eyes and your ears, if you have a headset use it and listen to your environment.
That's how a lot of scouts get the drop on people or even other scouts. And yes you can even hear footsteps when the person is cloaked. I heard footsteps above me so I knew to check my back every few seconds. Turned around to a cloak running towards me.
If.you don't have a headset, buy one for $40 from Turtle Beach. Cheap and effective.
I'm tired of people saying scouts are OP, just because there's a few bad apples out there that use it as an assault doesn't mean we're all OP.
Pay attention and maybe you won't die to a Nova Knife or Shotgun. hold on to that crutch before you fall over from all the bull your spewing. telling other people to pay attention as you wallhack with bad gungame.
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CUSE TOWN333
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:13:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:1. Commandos, Logis and Assaults can all use REs.
2. Mediums have more slots so they can add things to make their suit more efficient. (Shield Regulators, Energizers, and Rechargers) If a medium frame, more specifically an Assault isn't looking for ways to make their shield or armor tank style last longer than they're a crappy Assault. Throwing on one regulator/recharger/armor rep isn't going to hurt you. It'll help you die less and fight longer.
3. Scouts have only been "OP" since cloaks and new scouts, before cloaks not many people ran scout unless they truly had an interest in it. Now everyone is a scout so they can tank, gank and be hidden.
Ask any of the other scouts on this board and they can tell you how it was pre-Amarr/Caldari scouts.
Also if you're dying to scouts all the day maybe you should look around your surroundings before going all head first like so many heavies do, because they think, "I haz so muc HP!! Lololoolol burst hmg"
Use your eyes and your ears, if you have a headset use it and listen to your environment.
That's how a lot of scouts get the drop on people or even other scouts. And yes you can even hear footsteps when the person is cloaked. I heard footsteps above me so I knew to check my back every few seconds. Turned around to a cloak running towards me.
If.you don't have a headset, buy one for $40 from Turtle Beach. Cheap and effective.
I'm tired of people saying scouts are OP, just because there's a few bad apples out there that use it as an assault doesn't mean we're all OP.
Pay attention and maybe you won't die to a Nova Knife or Shotgun. hold on to that crutch before you fall over from all the bull your spewing. telling other people to pay attention as you wallhack with bad gungame. Lol crutch? I barely use my cloak if at all. I prefer to speed tank or run one damp. And as a Minmatar Scout I have to make sacrifices just to "wallhack", I have to wear two precision enhancers just to get a good reading on people and since this game has other scouts that have better E-War than me, I have to make up for it by filling my highs to get their levels. Even then I can't "see" them, unless I use my eyes or.listen with my ears. It's not easy like you think running around with 198 shields and 87 armor. If it was you'd see more scouts running with low hp. I sacrifice just like every other suit. If someone leaves my range, then I'm **** outta luck. TacNet is just a guide, it's not the bible. A good scout doesn't pay all their attention to their TacNet. They go between the two but mostly engross themselves in their environment. Don't get mad because a Scout knows the ins and outs of a map better than you. Knows when to jump off, where to turn, where to hide and where to flank. We conditioned ourselves to go beyond the TacNet and focus on things not seen on the thing. LMAO if you think running a scout suit takes any skill at all right now. i have ran assault my whole time in dust. i just put some SP in scout to see what it was like and boom all of a sudden easymode. you can see all heavys assaults and logis on the map at all times with no Ewar mods. only counter to a scout is a different scout. im not asking for it to be nerfed or anything but your all full of **** if you say the scout is not OP.
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:56:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Scouts refuse to admit that they have the best suit for every role in the game and its getting old. That must be why you never see squads of sentinels and minlogis in PC  This. The people that QQ about scouts all day long saying they dominate the game don't play PC. Scouts dominate pubs, in PC it's all about the minlogi and sentinel combo. Ofcourse that's when you're facing corps in PC that actually know what they're doing. A little side note. I do think that the 2nd equipment slot could be removed from the scout as the multiple equipment slot loadout is reserved for the logi. On my main character, I have proto: Cal logi Cal assault Cal sentinel Cal scout a corp that spams heavys and logis in PC will get stomped by any skilled intelligent opponent with slayer scouts. but i don't like calling anything OP cause i am not a fan of seeing nerfs every patch. i can see why people get on the defense when there suit or gun is called OP because they don't want to get nerfed but this leads them to not admit that what they are running may be out of balance. if there is a problem with something i run than i have no shame admiting it to help the discussion of balance. my burst HMG is broke and i admit that my scramber rifle on my amarr assault my be to powerful. but please save the bullS1t by even trying to say the scout is not easymode out of fear that your suit might need to be balanced in line.
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CUSE TOWN333
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:08:00 -
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i have to look at when i used to play clan matches in BF3. you can put a silencer on your gun to make you not show up on the mini map when fireing which is a big advantage. but along with that comes drawbacks like less damage and bullet drop. being invisible on the mini map and cloaked while still deliverying the same damage as a assault or logi suit is out of balance. speed small hitbox and strafeing and high regen is = to higher HP so you can't say haveing lower HP than a assault or logi is a drawback of a scout.
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:28:00 -
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i see a scout as more of a ninja sneak in to an objective hack the CRU and assassination of a couple key targets. not a full blown front line slayer of all suits.
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Posted - 2014.09.10 03:14:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Joel II X wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Commando > a bucket of horse manure > scout
The only change I would potentially make to scouts is to drop their equipment slots to 1, so the logi has a reason to avoid using it. Agree on the logi part. Other than that, I just see it as QQ. With the introduction of all the other racial scouts I wondered why it has 2 equipment slots. Right now I run a cloak and uplinks on it and consistantly get 1500+ wp per match. No joke. That second equipment slot makes the scout too strong imho. When complaining about EWAR, that's kind of what the scout suit is for. Comparing my Cal assault and Cal scout I think CCP should: - Remove the scout's extra equipment slot - Swap their shield regen values The two equipment slots was given because plenty of people cried for it. "Bu- but if we only have one equipment, how will we use a cloak AND whatever we currently use?" I think I wanted two equipment slots, too back then, but I regret that decision. Scouts should go back to one and lose the extra CPU/PG. scouts should go back to one EQ slot take the cloak out the game and make it so scouts can't have high HP fake assault scouts nuff said. they need to stop steping on the assault logis role. scoutshould be EWAR, speed, regen thats it point blank.
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