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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.06 23:21:00 -
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Context: We cue synced into FW with the goal of not letting anyone hack a point. Its hard, fun, and forces us to work together as a team. One blueberry, busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA, got in with us so I posted a message to him while we were in the warbarge saying not to hack any point.
He proceeded to try and hack several points so we team killed him, and so he wouldn't loose a suit I picked him up again. I watched him for a second and he choose to shoot me so I killed him and picked him up again hoping he would get the message that this wouldn't work. Repeat three times. He proceeded to hack and get team killed at other points with similar results.
Post battle here is the email thread that ensued:
busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA to: all players on our team: YOUR A PUNK ***
Mobius' reply: reported for hate speech.
busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA: COOL *** KILL YOUR TEAMATES SOME MORE AND IF YOU TAKE *** OR PUNK THE WRONG WAY YOU ARE ONE WHAT I MEAN BY *** IS LIL ***** VAUSE YOU KILL YOUR OWN TEAMATES GET A LIFE LMFAO REPORT ME AGAIN PUNK KID ***** OR CRY TO YOUR MOMMY NERD!!!!
busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA: AND WHEN I CALLED U A PUNK I MEANT TO SAY THATS THE SOUND OF BUBA PULLING HIS **** IN AND OUT OF YOUR ASS IN ONE OF THOSE CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN USA "PUNKA PUNKA PUNKA"
White-Lion: Those mails you sent to Mobius has now been sent all along Molon Labe and General Tso's alliance
busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA: GO FUCKYOURSELF NERD
White-Lion: Also send that to all of Molon : P
busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA: I BET MARK ASS TRICK
White-Lion: I don't understand your insults anymore. Just go punka punka by yourself and stop playing this game until you get good.
busteonthabeatho 13XXMERICA: LOOK IT UP DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND PROPER ENGLISH GET A LIFE WHEN ALL MY SKILLS ARE UPGRADED I WILL KILL ALL YOU DUMBFUCKS
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1792
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Posted - 2014.09.06 23:31:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:gotta say, kinda feel for the blue, what u did was not right.
He was warned.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1792
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:05:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Find it hard not to you as a douche and that blueberry a victim from what you said, was you stopping just your own team? or everyone to maximize clone death? your answer decides if your douche or not.
We were stopping everyone from hacking. Its a little game we play to make FW a bit more fun.
You are welcome to report me by the way since there is nothing wrong with team killing in FW. Its low sec and totally permitted.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1792
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:36:00 -
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I am franky a little shocked you are all so opposed to this but message accepted. I personally thought that it was funny. Clearly I am a bad person.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1792
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:41:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:I am franky a little shocked you are all so opposed to this but message accepted. I personally thought that it was funny. Clearly I am a bad person. Clearly the joke's on you
Clearly.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1794
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Posted - 2014.09.07 02:19:00 -
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Perhaps, and I realize that I'm going out on a limb here, the larger message to be taken away from this whole thread is that the majority of the Dust community is far less trolly then any of us may have thought. I personally will freely own up to my semi-troll status (only semi since I spend the vast majority of my time working for the community) hate away.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1794
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Posted - 2014.09.07 02:41:00 -
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What I did was hardly harassment. You'll notice that I never said a single thing that was rude or disrespectful the player. I never called him names or personally attacked him. Quite the opposite he attacked me. He used language that was clearly abusive and far beyond what is called for in a game setting. Simply posting his hateful words is simply calling him out, and myself at the same time since I will admit my in game actions were mean but far from crossing any sort of line, team killing is, after all, part of the game the sum total of which is not harassment.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1796
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Posted - 2014.09.07 02:57:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:What I did was hardly harassment. You'll notice that I never said a single thing that was rude or disrespectful the player. I never called him names or personally attacked him. Quite the opposite he attacked me. He used language that was clearly abusive and far beyond what is called for in a game setting. Simply posting his hateful words is simply calling him out, and myself at the same time since I will admit my in game actions were mean but far from crossing any sort of line, team killing is, after all, part of the game. It was griefing in game, It becomes harassment when you bring it to the forums in an attempt to shame him with a post which had the general context of "lol ****ing blueberry, how dare he try to play the game in manners that we don't want him to, We sure ****ing taught him. Lets everybody have a laugh at this stupid ****ing blueberry and our hilarious shenanigans!".
I totally disagree.
Harassment on the other hand is: ha-+rass verb \h+Ö--êras; -êher-+Ös, -êha-r+Ös\(1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct I did not persistently annoy him on the forums, nor did I create a hostile situation through uninvited verbal conduct. His conduct, in the manner of his reply, dictated my response. If he had responded differently and I made a post on the forum about it that would have been harassment. Since he replied by directly abusing me my response falls safely beyond the bounds of harassment.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1796
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Posted - 2014.09.07 03:00:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Man, this didn't go over well.
We will need to check into rehab and do some charity work for months to repair our reputation.
Not you just me. I will start by mentoring the next 25 new players whom I meet on comms.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1796
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Posted - 2014.09.07 03:05:00 -
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CAPTAN BAss wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:What I did was hardly harassment. You'll notice that I never said a single thing that was rude or disrespectful the player. I never called him names or personally attacked him. Quite the opposite he attacked me. He used language that was clearly abusive and far beyond what is called for in a game setting. Simply posting his hateful words is simply calling him out, and myself at the same time since I will admit my in game actions were mean but far from crossing any sort of line, team killing is, after all, part of the game. It was griefing in game, It becomes harassment when you bring it to the forums in an attempt to shame him with a post which had the general context of "lol ****ing blueberry, how dare he try to play the game in manners that we don't want him to, We sure ****ing taught him. Lets everybody have a laugh at this stupid ****ing blueberry and our hilarious shenanigans!". I totally disagree. Harassment on the other hand is: ha-+rass verb \h+Ö--êras; -êher-+Ös, -êha-r+Ös\(1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct I did not persistently annoy him on the forums, nor did I create a hostile situation through uninvited verbal conduct. His conduct, in the manner of his reply, dictated my response. If he had responded differently and I made a post on the forum about it that would have been harassment. Since he replied by directly abusing me my response falls safely beyond the bounds of harassment. Please stop defending yourself, it's just annoying now.
Oh I fully admitted that I am in the wrong here but I am totally willing to split hairs over whether this is harassment or not.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1796
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Posted - 2014.09.07 03:10:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:nor did I create a hostile situation through uninvited verbal conduct. His conduct, in the manner of his reply, dictated my response. If he had responded differently and I made a post on the forum about it that would have been harassment. Since he replied by directly abusing me my response falls safely beyond the bounds of harassment. So this isn't a thread completely devoted to shaming the individual who dared express his frustration at you actively attempting to ruin his fun? are you for some reason incapable of quietly reporting him? No lets instead set up this little kangaroo court where the expected result is to laugh at the blueberry, except you gave all the evidence needed to hang yourself and your group for griefing. I don't think that you get what 'harassment' is and it should be quite obvious that based on the amount of people disagreeing with you, that you are wrong.
Nope. I actually have no interest in shaming him and you will notice that early on I totally agreed that I am mean. I simply think his response was hilarious.
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