Why are they guaranteed to get hit by 3 swarms? Where is the math to prove that, i.e. difference before and after Delta? The AB keeps the same boost and should effectively evade as he does now, granted, the ADS cannot afford the same hovering as it can now, and can not return fully healed with restored AB's until after a longer time than currently.

First, pilots can usually not see when swarms are shot from a launcher because of sh*tty rendering so 2 swarms are already on their way and if you cant run away from the third you are screwed before you even try to take off.

Second, you are only talking about 1vs1 engagements but not taking in factor that every time an ADS is turning to be annoying 60% of the enemy team has AV out looking for you so generally you are taking on 2-5 people at once using AV. But imagine only 2 people with proto with that buff. They only need two volleys already and with speed buff there is NO chance of withstanding them.

Third, if you are giving the AV such nasty buffs can you please reduce impact damage from other dropships and tapping walls? Walls are my greatest enemies atm, when I touch them they just dont want to let me go and hold me until It drains my health with some weird constant damage. Either impact damage or sticky effects please.

I generally dont have a grumpy attitude towards CCP but when things are getting so close to being absolute nonsense I break. Infantry players are sometimes really pissed off towards vehicle specialists, I know that and since infantry are way larger percentage of players CCP wants to do every thing they can to please them but when you are giving buffs to AV update after update it gets tired and I cant stand it anymore. Vehicles are getting more and more ineffective and there for expensive for no reason. Tanks atm stand no chance vs AV. We are not all duna and such btw so please try not to set your aim on nerfing those nolife-ing machines.

Hey dark you forgot that alot of people have now speced into the minmatar commando for the swarm damage
(because they think swarms are so useless?pff!) so add 10% on that damage output...

I propose giving use the pre announced hp buff 300-500 to shield on pythons and 200-300 to armour on incubus because it is kind of ridiculus to keep buffing AV (telling youself that buff to AB duration is actually balancing) and leave the pilots in the dirt.

I m seeing a lot of anecdotal screaming that buffing swarms is unfair and very little hard evidence as to why vehicles outrunning missiles is fair.

The only way swarms kill ADS currently is the dropship pilot is an utter idiot or five of them focus fire for instablap. This is not weapon balance.

A 25 million SP AV fit should have a 50/50 ish chance of killing a 25 million SP vehicle at some point during a match. The actual skill of the gunner vs. The skill of the pilot should be what skews the curve, not the cost of what fit. Forge guns can solo dropships, its just hard.

Swarms should be able to solo dropships. It should just be hard. It will be given that swarms are slower alpha and more easily dodged. 8 seconds-ish (swarm) vs. 6.75 (assault forge) seems pretty damn reasonable.

Not being able to accelerate out of range faster than missiles can fly will encourage better maneuvering rather than saving the survival instinct for when the sentinel puts his attention on you.