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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.07 16:17:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Atiim wrote:Change #1 would put things into a position where since the AB can still allow ADSs to out-run Swarms, any Pilot who's caught by surprise will still be able to evade, despite his failure to be aware of the situation.
In short, that wouldn't solve anything. Well, we don't want every pilot caught by surprise to just be dead, this will deter them more and reduce the ADS K/D since they are longer out of engagement. Dude, enough with the K/D bull crap. The only reason we have good K/D is because we don't die a lot. The reason we don't die a lot is because we flee at the first sight of danger. 500k isk isn't worth one kill. It's perfectly balanced then that you don't die a lot and manage to get massive amounts of kills.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.07 19:44:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Atiim wrote:Change #1 would put things into a position where since the AB can still allow ADSs to out-run Swarms, any Pilot who's caught by surprise will still be able to evade, despite his failure to be aware of the situation.
In short, that wouldn't solve anything. Well, we don't want every pilot caught by surprise to just be dead, this will deter them more and reduce the ADS K/D since they are longer out of engagement. Dude, enough with the K/D bull crap. The only reason we have good K/D is because we don't die a lot. The reason we don't die a lot is because we flee at the first sight of danger. 500k isk isn't worth one kill. It's perfectly balanced then that you don't die a lot and manage to get massive amounts of kills. The max kills I've ever gotten with a ADS is like 24 and that was vs fresh out the academy players vs 500k isk python. I've gone 44-3 with a militia heavy with a STD HMG std mods vs. Proto users. ADS in no way is OP. Heavies are easy mode http://imgur.com/Ijc5Um7 I've seen players like PARTHOK and Derrtih get close to 20 kills and under 2 deaths in PC in Pub's if the other team pushes enough a good ADS pilot could get 30+ kills, I've seen Snugglez go 36-0 and I think 41-0.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:40:00 -
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a brackers wrote: You try and say one good pilot has once got 36 kills meaning that all ads pilots can easily do it. Average kills per lost ship is about 10 against a competent team who knows how to change suits to av. To be profitable it currently takes not losing a ship for the entirety of three matches. This means we run at any forge or rail shots or swarm shots. The reason we kill u is we then know where you are so we use the terrain to sneak up on u and then kill u
No the reason why I get killed is because an ADS can fly far far above my tank well out of my range and dive down and shoot at me uncontested by me because I can not aim up high enough to hit you and there is little I can do to stop it, pretending you are using intricate strategy is BS.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3112
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:44:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Quote: Heavies are easy mode http://imgur.com/Ijc5Um7I've seen players like PARTHOK and Derrtih get close to 20 kills and under 2 deaths in PC in Pub's if the other team pushes enough a good ADS pilot could get 30+ kills, I've seen Snugglez go 36-0 and I think 41-0. I've seen Saxonmish go 80+/4, therefore his Minmatar Assault needs to be nerfed along with his ADV rail rifle since his KD is too high. Benjamin's logic. LOL You're cute.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3112
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:47:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:a brackers wrote: You try and say one good pilot has once got 36 kills meaning that all ads pilots can easily do it. Average kills per lost ship is about 10 against a competent team who knows how to change suits to av. To be profitable it currently takes not losing a ship for the entirety of three matches. This means we run at any forge or rail shots or swarm shots. The reason we kill u is we then know where you are so we use the terrain to sneak up on u and then kill u
No the reason why I get killed is because an ADS can fly far far above my tank well out of my range and dive down and shoot at me uncontested by me because I can not aim up high enough to hit you and there is little I can do to stop it, pretending you are using intricate strategy is BS. Maybe try using gunners? Maybe drive in a Heavy with A FG? Maybe get good? You act like I haven't taken Espeon and others out in 1v1 DS v Tank. A forge in a tank! What kind of ***** do you think I am? lol gimp my fit so that the ADS can easily out DPS what my gunners putting out and get wrecked anyway. Maybe get good and stop sucking in your ADS 24-0 your best really.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3113
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:57:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:a brackers wrote: You try and say one good pilot has once got 36 kills meaning that all ads pilots can easily do it. Average kills per lost ship is about 10 against a competent team who knows how to change suits to av. To be profitable it currently takes not losing a ship for the entirety of three matches. This means we run at any forge or rail shots or swarm shots. The reason we kill u is we then know where you are so we use the terrain to sneak up on u and then kill u
No the reason why I get killed is because an ADS can fly far far above my tank well out of my range and dive down and shoot at me uncontested by me because I can not aim up high enough to hit you and there is little I can do to stop it, pretending you are using intricate strategy is BS. Maybe try using gunners? Maybe drive in a Heavy with A FG? Maybe get good? You act like I haven't taken Espeon and others out in 1v1 DS v Tank. A forge in a tank! What kind of ***** do you think I am? lol gimp my fit so that the ADS can easily out DPS what my gunners putting out and get wrecked anyway. Maybe get good and stop sucking in your ADS 24-0 your best really. Why are you letting an ADS destroy your tank? Sounds like a pathetic whiner without any sense or skill in the matter... Why are you letting that proto burst heavy kill your starter fit. You must be a scrub. Hint I don't camp in the redline.
Tanker/Logi/Assault
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3113
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Posted - 2014.09.08 00:23:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Quote: Heavies are easy mode http://imgur.com/Ijc5Um7I've seen players like PARTHOK and Derrtih get close to 20 kills and under 2 deaths in PC in Pub's if the other team pushes enough a good ADS pilot could get 30+ kills, I've seen Snugglez go 36-0 and I think 41-0. I've seen Saxonmish go 80+/4, therefore his Minmatar Assault needs to be nerfed along with his ADV rail rifle since his KD is too high. Benjamin's logic. LOL You're cute. LOL you're stupid. I'm going to keep this one he amuses me with his failed logic.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3113
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Posted - 2014.09.08 00:43:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:a brackers wrote: You try and say one good pilot has once got 36 kills meaning that all ads pilots can easily do it. Average kills per lost ship is about 10 against a competent team who knows how to change suits to av. To be profitable it currently takes not losing a ship for the entirety of three matches. This means we run at any forge or rail shots or swarm shots. The reason we kill u is we then know where you are so we use the terrain to sneak up on u and then kill u
No the reason why I get killed is because an ADS can fly far far above my tank well out of my range and dive down and shoot at me uncontested by me because I can not aim up high enough to hit you and there is little I can do to stop it, pretending you are using intricate strategy is BS. Maybe try using gunners? Maybe drive in a Heavy with A FG? Maybe get good? You act like I haven't taken Espeon and others out in 1v1 DS v Tank. A forge in a tank! What kind of ***** do you think I am? lol gimp my fit so that the ADS can easily out DPS what my gunners putting out and get wrecked anyway. Maybe get good and stop sucking in your ADS 24-0 your best really. 1. Do you want a cookie? I saw you QQing about how your ass got handed to you by an ADS and you couldn't do sh*t so I give you a few suggestions that actually work but they might be difficult to take in by a hard head like you. Also, wearing a forge gun on a heavy suit while siting in a tank doesn't change the tanks performance. You must be one of those scrubs that jumps out with a Six Kin Burst. 2. It's not about kills, It's team support. I destroyed vehicles that match coupled with uplinks on buildings which lead us to win that match. If you PC, you know that drop uplink placement is the key to winning. When there are a bunch of Dropsuplinks on a building heavy defended by infantry, you're tank on the ground doesn't do sh*t. You must be really stupid to base peoples performance on kills. Learn to dust? Yes I'll take one though I would prefer popcorn when reading your posts. If you want to know the proper way to kill an ADS it is to move forward full speed and then stop so the ADS is thrown in front of you or you can activate your fuel injector and launch yourself backwards. They are changing the inertia so that the latter will likely be impossible and the former is next to impossible because you won't connect enough shots to kill it. That would imply I skilled Fotm heavy, the suit doesn't matter because I don't bail I stick with my tank till the end except in PC where I have a Speed hack/link/assault suit depending on the scenario.
lol you take pubs far to seriously I slay in pubs and that's pretty much it. I myself am not a pubstar and save my go hard attitude for PC and do not have to try ubber hard in pubs.
Pc performance is based on how effective you did your job and Pub performance is mainly based on kills because the enemy team is generally too stupid to clear links and such so aside from deploying strategic links in the beginning you really just have to kill them off the points hack move onto the next one and especially if it's dom which is what I play most of the time it's all about slaying them off the point.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3115
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Posted - 2014.09.08 00:57:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote: Sadly you still fail to realize that you contradict yourself often. At first it is you QQing about how ADS kill your tank, then you say you are a ADS slayer and have taken out the best of Pilots. Then you say I am a bad pilot because I want 24-0 and tell me to get good. With that logic, you can say a logistics player is bad because he went 2-4. Maybe learn about roles instead of pulling crap out of your ass and calling yourself smart?
I never said I was an ADS slayer period, it doesn't mean I haven't taken down ADS's I can take a min assault down with a min scout 5 times and lose another 20 that does not make me a min assault slayer. It means I am capable of taking them down but the advantage is certainly in their favor. The role of a Python is to be a slayer the role of a logistics is support the logistics is certainly bad if he goes 2-4 with 350 war points as an ADS you don't have anything really to do with support it's about ASSAULT it's in the name for god sakes, the role is to kill and assault objectives killing has everything to do with it.
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